Apple vs. FBI

[Locutus]

Legal experts say the battle between the federal government and Apple Inc. over unlocking the contents of an iPhone is about more than simply helping investigate the San Bernardino terrorist attack.

"The FBI's request ... represents the next step in the journey to find the Holy Grail of backdoor unencryption, and the next salvo in the ever-escalating battle between law enforcement and tech companies," said Robert Cattanach, a cybersecurity attorney and former Department of Justice special counsel.

The dispute between Silicon Valley and the federal government has been brewing for some time, but this is expected to become the defining case.

Chenxi Wang, chief strategy officer at the network security firm Twistlock, said the court battle would be a seminal moment in balancing "privacy and civil liberty against government data access."

"If Apple succeeds in fighting the court order, it will set up a high barrier for the FBI and the other government groups to access citizen data from now on," Wang said. "This will absolutely have a ripple effect. Apple is now viewed as the flag bearer for protecting citizen data, and if they succeed, there will be a flood of other companies following suit."

Link to full article

[Locutus]

I would suggest you read the remainder of that article for details about what the FBI has requested of Apple as well as Apple's position on the case. 

Apple's position can be found on this open letter to its customers:

http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

[Locutus]

Thoughts? 

[Exterminator]

I don't understand why the government thinks there is an urgent need to learn more about the shooters; they're dead.

[Locutus]

I don't understand why the government thinks there is an urgent need to learn more about the shooters; they're dead.

Those are my thoughts almost exactly.   

[Bo D]

Were they part of a larger cell? In cahoots with someone?

[Locutus]

The phone may could tell them that, but what about the Padora's Box that may be opened if Apple caves to the Feds?

[Bo D]

The phone may could tell them that, but what about the Padora's Box that may be opened if Apple caves to the Feds?

No doubt, it's a tough situation and yours is a valid question. This is an issue which will not go away and will indeed get worse.

[Purplelady1040]

I agree it's a tough situation but could it be considered treason? I know Apple thinks if they do this to one that they have to do it for all but I can understand the Feds wanting to know if there were others involved.

[Palehorse]

"Give them an inch, they'll take a mile". It has been proven countless times since 1776. . .

[Henry Hawk]

 

[Locutus]

Didn't most of this recent overreach start with the Patriot Act, which if I recall correctly, you supported?

[Henry Hawk]

Even though I fully "get" both sides of this argument...keeping America safe is first and foremost with me...and Apple is making a pissload of money from Americans so it seems like Apple would want to cooperate

Just sayin

[Locutus]

Even though I fully "get" both sides of this argument...keeping America safe is first and foremost with me...and Apple is making a pissload of money from Americans so it seems like Apple would want to cooperate

Just sayin

So you are perfectly okay to cede Liberty for perceived safety?

I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to go that far.  Where is the line drawn between government surveillance, which the FBI's request might enable (and the Patriot Act already did), and your Liberty?

We're not that far from surveillance that is similar to which the KGB employed on Russian citizens.  Are we not?

[Locutus]

BTW, the "I'm not doing anything wrong so I have nothing to worry about" defense doesn't hold water with anyone who truly thinks about it. 

Just in case you want to trot that out.