Whack Jobs In Oregon

[Anne]

The survivalist I have seen interviewed on TV and a cousin of mine talk more about the anarchy/invasion event.
Anyone remember the ads for bomb shelters back in the 50's? My dad had plans for one and I remember seeing an ad for a fiberglass/plastic one you pretty much just buried in the back yard.They were supposed to be protection from radiation, "survive a nuclear attack!". Most of us know better now, but that was a different world then.

[Exterminator]

The survivalist I have seen interviewed on TV and a cousin of mine talk more about the anarchy/invasion event.

I doubt they understand the seriousness of either one of those scenarios either.  The most likely catastrophic event will probably be a natural one.  I wonder how many preppers there are living in the Pacific Northwest?

[Locutus]

I doubt they understand the seriousness of either one of those scenarios either.  The most likely catastrophic event will probably be a natural one.  I wonder how many preppers there are living in the Pacific Northwest?

Interesting that you're aware of that, because not many people are.  One of my cousins, aunt, and uncle have relocated to the Portland area from Florida.  I asked them prior to moving if they had considered the Cascadia Subduction Zone and the earthquake to come.  None of them knew about it. 

The Pacific Northwest is beautiful with the mountains and volcanoes.  However, it's beautiful for a reason, and that reason is going to bite that whole area in the ass at some point in the future.  I've read that article that you posted before, and it states:

"...we now know that the odds of the big Cascadia earthquake happening in the next fifty years are roughly one in three. The odds of the very big one are roughly one in ten. Even those numbers do not fully reflect the danger—or, more to the point, how unprepared the Pacific Northwest is to face it. The truly worrisome figures in this story are these: Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed."

That area is a ticking time bomb, and not too many people know about it.  They think the biggest risk to the west coast of the United States is San Andreas. 

[Exterminator]

They think the biggest risk to the west coast of the United States is San Andreas.

Yep; not even close. 

[Locutus]

Yep; not even close. 

It also states in there that the upper limit of San Andreas is an 8.2 event.  Because the Richter Scale is logarithmic, the maximum San Andreas quake would only be six percent as strong as the magnitude 9.0 Tohoku earthquake which caused the devastating tsunami and nuclear meltdown in Japan.  The Cascadia Subduction Zone is capable of delivering a 9.2 earthquake in a full-margin rupture.  That's very scary, and will be very devastating. 

[Locutus]

Now who's moving to Portland?   

[AbbyTC]

Interesting that you're aware of that, because not many people are.  One of my cousins, aunt, and uncle have relocated to the Portland area from Florida.  I asked them prior to moving if they had considered the Cascadia Subduction Zone and the earthquake to come.  None of them knew about it. 

The Pacific Northwest is beautiful with the mountains and volcanoes.  However, it's beautiful for a reason, and that reason is going to bite that whole area in the ass at some point in the future.  I've read that article that you posted before, and it states:

"...we now know that the odds of the big Cascadia earthquake happening in the next fifty years are roughly one in three. The odds of the very big one are roughly one in ten. Even those numbers do not fully reflect the danger—or, more to the point, how unprepared the Pacific Northwest is to face it. The truly worrisome figures in this story are these: Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed."

That area is a ticking time bomb, and not too many people know about it.  They think the biggest risk to the west coast of the United States is San Andreas.

How many people in that area know about it?  And how many think it's that big of a threat?  Or are they like people who live in California who know there will be earthquakes, and some severe ones, but live there any way because they love the area? 

[Palehorse]

Now who's moving to Portland?   

I'll say again, New Madrid Fault. . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811–12_New_Madrid_earthquakes

Way overdue to shake things up, and yet. . .

When it does it's next trick, a whole lot of property and people are gong to be damaged. . .

[The Troll]

I'll say again, New Madrid Fault. . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811–12_New_Madrid_earthquakes

Way overdue to shake things up, and yet. . .

When it does it's next trick, a whole lot of property and people are gong to be damaged. . .

  AND, that is why I have got earth quake insurance.  I could not afford to have to pay for a new house, because mine was knocked off it's foundation.    

[Palehorse]

  AND, that is why I have got earth quake insurance.  I could not afford to have to pay for a new house, because mine was knocked off it's foundation.    

Me too. 

[Locutus]

How many people in that area know about it?  And how many think it's that big of a threat? 

It's hard to tell on both of those counts.  It's hard to imagine, though, that anyone who knows and completely understands the dynamics of that subduction zone, would consider it anything other than a major threat. 

Or are they like people who live in California who know there will be earthquakes, and some severe ones, but live there any way because they love the area? 

Well it absolutely is a beautiful area, but it's beautiful for a reason.  The very subduction zone that's the threat is the same subduction zone that created the beauty. 

As to the residents knowing there will be earthquakes, remember what the article stated:

Thirty years ago, no one knew that the Cascadia subduction zone had ever produced a major earthquake. Forty-five years ago, no one even knew it existed."


That's a very short amount of time in the grand scheme of things.  It takes time to educate people.  Sometimes, a long time. 

[Locutus]

What I found most ominous, having myself stood on the shore at Canon Beach, Oregon while watching the waves lap at the shore, were the closing lines of the article that Ex posted:

"Dougherty's office is deep inside the inundation zone, a few blocks from the beach. All day long, just out of sight, the ocean rises up and collapses, spilling foamy overlapping ovals onto the shore. Eighty miles farther out, ten thousand feet below the surface of the sea, the hand of a geological clock is somewhere in its slow sweep. All across the region, seismologists are looking at their watches, wondering how long we have, and what we will do, before geological time catches up to our own.

[Locutus]

This is the inundation zone, and its inherent beauty.  This is Cannon Beach, Oregon, and Haystack Rock (the rock to the far right in the picture).  Imagine a wall of water 100 feet high coming ashore there.  That's a wall of water that would reach halfway up Haystack Rock.  If you were standing on the beach there when the shaking started, you would have only about 15 minutes or so to make it to higher ground. 

[libby]

This is the inundation zone, and its inherent beauty.  This is Cannon Beach, Oregon, and Haystack Rock (the rock to the far right in the picture).  Imagine a wall of water 100 feet high coming ashore there.  That's a wall of water that would reach halfway up Haystack Rock.  If you were standing on the beach there when the shaking started, you would have only about 15 minutes or so to make it to higher ground. 

Beautiful scene, fascinating subject!

[Locutus]

Beautiful scene, fascinating subject!

Did you read the entire article that Ex posted Libby?  It's compelling reading.