Rowan County Kentucky Clerk of the Court, Kim Davis

[Y]

.... but YOU are in favor of...tons and tons of regulations...

Capitalism must be highly regulated else it benefits the few to the detriment of the many.

You RW idjits refuse to face the fact that Capitalism is simply one economic system and can be corrupt and destructive without proper regulation for the benefit of the ENTIRE society.

[Locutus]

They could but I think the Governor may have the legislators when they convene in January decide to remove her. He didn't want to call a "special" session as it would cost the taxpayers extra. Time will tell!

Do the legislators have that authority under KY law?

[Y]

...taxes upon taxes to control the masses.....

First, taxes are the dues we pay to have a society.

The problem with taxes is the problem with the lack of regulation of Capitalism.  Those with the money and power write the code and the laws either directly or through corrupt influence.

Just remember, you support that through your stupid support of the 'We Corporations Are Really People' decision - based on your ridiculous religious fol-del-rol.   

[Y]

Do the legislators have that authority under KY law?

According to what I've read they do.  The Governor doesn't, but the Legislature does have the authority to impeach her.

[Locutus]

According to what I've read they do.  The Governor doesn't, but the Legislature does have the authority to impeach her.

Unfortunately, I would bet that a large number of those selfsame legislators agree with her position.  That would make impeachment unlikely.

[Y]

Unfortunately, I would bet that a large number of those selfsame legislators agree with her position.  That would make impeachment unlikely.

I hope not.  These religious nutcases need to be shown this country is NOT governed by ANY of their religious insanity.

[Purplelady1040]

Do the legislators have that authority under KY law?

Yes, the legislators do have that authority and the Governor will have to accept what decision they come up!

[Purplelady1040]

Unfortunately, I would bet that a large number of those selfsame legislators agree with her position.  That would make impeachment unlikely.

I can't say but some of the legislators feel she is wrong and should abide by the law! A couple of the legislators were asking public opinion on their Facebook accounts and many were speaking out against the clerk!

[Locutus]

I hope not.  These religious nutcases need to be shown this country is NOT governed by ANY of their religious insanity.

I couldn't agree more. 

I posted this on another thread about "religious freedom" and it's just as apropos here as it was there.  Just substitute "issuing a marriage license" for "selling a wedding cake."

It is just as wrong, from a civic and legal perspective, to deny selling a wedding cake to a gay couple as it was to deny people of color the right to sit at the same breakfast counter.  Religious beliefs, if they are bigoted and oppressive, cannot be "legalized" in a country which values human dignity and in which universal human rights are the cornerstone of the whole system of justice. 

Exclusion of LGBT persons, on the basis of one's religious belief, is another example of religion being used for bigotry and exclusion in a country which promotes equality and inclusion. Our laws should not permit that. Inside the church walls, or inside the walls of your own home, you can say whatever you want to about your beliefs about another person's lifestyle, orientation and/or sinfulness and damnation. But you cannot force them, in the legal community and in society, to drink from a different water fountain, or to go to a different bakery.

It really is just that simple if you think about it. 

[Purplelady1040]

I couldn't agree more. 

I posted this on another thread about "religious freedom" and it's just as apropos here as it was there.  Just substitute "issuing a marriage license" for "selling a wedding cake."

Excellent!

[AbbyTC]

I hope not.  These religious nutcases need to be shown this country is NOT governed by ANY of their religious insanity.

[Locutus]

 

[me]

"HAH!" (TM)

I admit I'm in favor of gun control.  It's a public safety issue, ergo a public health issue.

First off, let's start with the Constitution, because that's always the jumping off point for gun nuts.

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

That phrase of the Second Amendment can be interpreted as the right of the States to organize well REGULATED militia's and the right of those people in those militias to bear arms shall not be infringed.

Another interpretation can also be what constitute 'arms'. Arms could be limited to spears, swords, and knives without infringing on the spirit of the Second Amendment.

Now my idea of gun control is to eliminate any sort of automatic/semi-automatic weapon.  That in itself would tend to eliminate most 'mass' killings - yeah, I know you can carry multiple revolvers but it's not as easy as using semi-autos.  Doing that still won't reduce anyone's ability for self-protection or hunting.

It's as I've pointed out before, you either accept that there are Second Amendment limitations or there aren't.  IF you accept there aren't, then you accept the idea that your neighbor et al can have WMD's and nuke your sorry arse.   

You can regulate 'til the cows come home and it won't keep the guns out of the criminal's hands. They don't go through the proper channels to obtain a gun.

[Henry Hawk]

Y,

First of all, my mistake.  I pretended for a moment that I gave a hoot what you think..........I screwed up and broke one of my own rules, that being not to engage with you on political or religious issues. It is pointless.

Secondly, I have not taken any time to read your responses, so you wasted MORE of your time.  I don't care what your thoughts are me or my ideology.  It means nothing.

I know I am right about my thoughts and beliefs or I wouldn't believe this way.  I KNOW for a fact your thoughts are wrong.  It is that simple and really nothing to discuss.

If you want to talk about non-political stuff, lets do it. 

[Henry Hawk]

Unfortunately, I would bet that a large number of those selfsame legislators agree with her position.  That would make impeachment unlikely.

I disagree.  There are not many that are supporting her.  This in my opinion is not even worth arguing about....she is 100% wrong.  I think she should be fired (if that means impeachment then do it.)  She SHOULD step down if she if she had any integrity.  I can respect someone who is willing to give up a great salary for their beliefs. Even if I don't agree with them...it takes integrity to do such a thing.