Ever thought about having your DNA checked?

[Palehorse]

I've sent my DNA sample in. . .

In about 8 weeks I will either have validation of the "conjecture" within our oral family history, or scientific evidence that it is a bunch of bunk.

I'm of an age wherein if my analysis results gets into someone else's hands, I don't give a damn. . .  I want answers dammit! 

[The Troll]

I've sent my DNA sample in. . .

In about 8 weeks I will either have validation of the "conjecture" within our oral family history, or scientific evidence that it is a bunch of bunk.

I'm of an age wherein if my analysis results gets into someone else's hands, I don't give a damn. . .  I want answers dammit! 

  What happens if you don't have any Indian in you?   

[Locutus]

  What happens if you don't have any Indian in you?   

We're going to scalp him. 

[Palehorse]

  What happens if you don't have any Indian in you?   

Then my ancestors were liars. . .

[Y]

Here's an interesting proposition.

What if someone/company acquired your DNA and cloned you?

1)  How would you prove you're you?

2)  Would the entity that cloned you, own the clone, or would you have ownership?

3)  Would you have to fight for ownership, or would the clone be considered a separate human being with all inherent rights?

[Locutus]

That's a very interesting take on this whole conversation, and one I hadn't even thought about. 

[Palehorse]

Here's an interesting proposition.

What if someone/company acquired your DNA and cloned you?

1)  How would you prove you're you?

2)  Would the entity that cloned you, own the clone, or would you have ownership?

3)  Would you have to fight for ownership, or would the clone be considered a separate human being with all inherent rights?

I wish someone would. Then I could sit at home and let that fugger work his ass off instead of me. . . 

[Locutus]

[me]

I've sent my DNA sample in. . .

In about 8 weeks I will either have validation of the "conjecture" within our oral family history, or scientific evidence that it is a bunch of bunk.

I'm of an age wherein if my analysis results gets into someone else's hands, I don't give a damn. . .  I want answers dammit! 

My daughter did that for hubby and me and his Native American dna didn't show up but they said it would take a different test than they do at Ancestory in their written thing they send back with the test results. He knows his grandma on both his dad's and his mom's side were full blooded. He did, however show up 73% British but, depending on the tribe, that could be part of the Native American blood.

[libby]

Here's an interesting proposition.

What if someone/company acquired your DNA and cloned you?

1)  How would you prove you're you?

2)  Would the entity that cloned you, own the clone, or would you have ownership?

3)  Would you have to fight for ownership, or would the clone be considered a separate human being with all inherent rights?

That's a very interesting take on this whole conversation, and one I hadn't even thought about. 

Yes!  I decided I would comment on 3) "would the clone be considered a separate human being..." and sat there thinking and writing and thinking and writing, and .... finally decided I needed some sleep, and .... still thinkin' .... does cloning include the mind? ... epigenetics ... reincarnation ... where does the soul reside ... (this may take a while ... )   

[me]

Here's an interesting proposition.

What if someone/company acquired your DNA and cloned you?

1)  How would you prove you're you?

2)  Would the entity that cloned you, own the clone, or would you have ownership?

3)  Would you have to fight for ownership, or would the clone be considered a separate human being with all inherent rights?

Could they do that and make the clone an adult or would it have to start out as a baby?

[Palehorse]

Could they do that and make the clone an adult or would it have to start out as a baby?

It would be a baby, just like everything else they've cloned.

And yes, they can clone human beings, however the religious zealots in the world presently stand between science and this legally happening.

(I am not saying that it has or has not happened, but that it IS a reality).

[me]

It would be a baby, just like everything else they've cloned.

And yes, they can clone human beings, however the religious zealots in the world presently stand between science and this legally happening.

(I am not saying that it has or has not happened, but that it IS a reality).

I remember them cloning a sheep but it seems, IIRC, the cloned one had all kinds of health problems they hadn't expected. That's been a lot of years ago though.

[libby]

Yes!  I decided I would comment on 3) "would the clone be considered a separate human being..." and sat there thinking and writing and thinking and writing, and .... finally decided I needed some sleep, and .... still thinkin' .... does cloning include the mind? ... epigenetics ... reincarnation ... where does the soul reside ... (this may take a while ... )   

Still thinkin' -- and that made me remember something Bo D posted several years ago, in the original Bluefield Hey Martha chat room: about epigenetics. I knew zilch about it, so printed the article -- still have it somewhere. Anyway, here's a definition, from The Biology of Belief, by Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D: 

"The science of epigenetics, which literally means "control above genetics" profoundly changes our understanding of how life is controlled....In the last decade, epigenetic research has established that DNA blueprints passed down through genes are not set in concrete at birth. Genes are not destiny! Environmental influences, including nutrition, stress, and emotions, can modify those genes without changing the basic blueprint. And those modifications, epigeneticists have discovered, can be passed on to future generations  as surely as DNA blueprints are passed on via the double helix." 

That was intriguing to me because I remembered something my mother once said about "marking" unborn babies by doing things during pregnancy that might adversely affect the health and general well-being of the child.

[Anne]

I think they would be a separate person with all legal rights. They might have the identical genetic makeup of the original person, but their life experiences and environmental factors would make them a unique individual.

This reminds me of a movie, I think it was The Boys From Brazil. It was about growing new Hitler's.