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Indiana's Religious Freedom Legislation

Started by Palehorse, March 16, 2015, 06:04:18 PM

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on April 03, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
I don't know what that means. 
OK I blame BoD for mentioning pizza and beer yesterday, because that is what i ended uo having for supper and I think I passed my limit because as I read back, I am not exactly sure what I meant either.😇
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Henry Hawk

I do know that Dana, the lady who started this, has set them up with a financial firm to help them with this.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Locutus on April 02, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
BTW, I'll give you three guesses who's going to get the credit for this financial windfall that these people have now encountered, but the first two don't count.

I'll even give you a hint on this one too.  It isn't going to be Dana Loesch.

Any guesses?  ;D 




^^  :rolleyes:

Earlier this week, Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Indiana, shut down after receiving backlash over anti-gay comments.

The pizzeria is co-owned by Kevin O'Connor and his daughter, Crystal O'Connor. And although they've said they "don't have a problem with gay people," catering gay weddings goes against their beliefs. "If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no," Crystal told local news station ABC 57. "We are a Christian establishment."

Angry Yelp reviews and threatening messages started pouring in, and the O'Connors closed the pizzeria down. But a "Support Memories Pizza" GoFundMe campaign was created shortly afterward to keep the establishment open, and raised more than $500,000 in 48 hours.

As of Saturday morning, "Support Memories Pizza" had raised over $800,000. In an interview with Fox News Business' Neil Cavuto, Crystal said that although she's not quite ready to open the pizzeria again, she believes God is responsible for the support that's poured in.

God has blessed us for standing up for what we believe, and not denying him," Crystal told Cavuto.

Additionally, a local choir called Ripple Effect set up camp across the street from Memories in an attempt to bring the community together again.

"We're not here to condemn or condone the owners of the establishment. We're here to show them and the community that we can show love to people in spite of our differences," choir direct Sherry Klinedinst told Indiana news station WSBT 22.

Support may be pouring in on a local level, but on a larger scale there's still quite a bit of outrage over the O'Connors' statements. On Sirius XM, Rosie O'Donnell, a former co-host on "The View," joked that pizza joints aren't often called upon to cater gay weddings anyway.

"Remember that they were saying that, the pizza lady, that gays were going to cater their weddings with pizza," she said. "Not even lesbians would do that. We might do a potluck. We might make some chili, you know, if situations are tough."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/04/anti-gay-pizzeria_n_7003596.html
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Locutus

Told ya'!  The ole' Sky Daddy gets the credit.  :rolleyes:   

The stupidity is absolutely astounding.   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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Quote from: Locutus on April 05, 2015, 10:42:14 PM
Told ya'!  The ole' Sky Daddy gets the credit.  :rolleyes:

I'm sure that while he was busy with this fund-raiser, somewhere there were children being raped.
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Y

"...not ready to reopen..."

LMAO!

What did I tell ya'.  It looks like they're going to take the money and run.  Apparently, phoney martyrs can be bought and paid for!  Praise gawd!    :wink:
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Locutus

Of course they're not ready to reopen.  In a little over 48 hours, they made more money from stupid bigots than that pizza joint will make in 10+ years.  :rolleyes:
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"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Of course they're not ready to reopen.  In a little over 48 hours, they made more money from stupid bigots than that pizza joint will make in 10+ years.  :rolleyes:

And more than they would have been able to obtain if they sold the place as a turnkey business opportunity or as business real estate.

They may as well slap a for sale sign on it and add a little more to their nest egg. . .   :rolleyes:
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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on April 06, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
And more than they would have been able to obtain if they sold the place as a turnkey business opportunity or as business real estate.

They may as well slap a for sale sign on it and add a little more to their nest egg. . .   :rolleyes:

Bingo!  :yes:  Also at an increased asking price because of the notoriety. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Y

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/bizarro-world-jindal-says-gays-dont-need

"Businesses that don't want to choose between their Christian faith -- their sincerely held religious beliefs -- and being able to operate their businesses,"

We been talking about this, that when you become a public entity, a business, that if you're 'religious' you do have to make that choice because you push your own private 'religious' discriminatory agenda through your very public business.

Another thing that gets me is that why would a so-called xtian want to be in business anyway?  Don't you xtians believe in the literal word of your Jesus or adhere to and live according to his tenets?

For examples:

1 John 2:15 KJV

Do Not Love the World

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.



John 15:19 KJV

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.



The choice isn't that of choosing to follow your xtian prejudices and discriminate while being a business, but to follow the Jesus of your religion and not be 'of the world' and be in business.  It's quite obvious you can't follow Jesus and be a capitalist.   :wink:
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2015, 08:18:36 PM
Of course they're not ready to reopen.  In a little over 48 hours, they made more money from stupid bigots than that pizza joint will make in 10+ years.  :rolleyes:

I'd say 'EVER'.  I've seen pizza joint after pizza joint fold trying to survive in small towns. 
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Palehorse on April 06, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
And more than they would have been able to obtain if they sold the place as a turnkey business opportunity or as business real estate.

They may as well slap a for sale sign on it and add a little more to their nest egg. . .   :rolleyes:

IF they can sell it.  Selling buildings in small towns is also extremely hard to do.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Y on April 06, 2015, 08:33:53 PM
http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/bizarro-world-jindal-says-gays-dont-need

"Businesses that don't want to choose between their Christian faith -- their sincerely held religious beliefs -- and being able to operate their businesses,"

We been talking about this, that when you become a public entity, a business, that if you're 'religious' you do have to make that choice because you push your own private 'religious' discriminatory agenda through your very public business.

Another thing that gets me is that why would a so-called xtian want to be in business anyway?  Don't you xtians believe in the literal word of your Jesus or adhere to and live according to his tenets?

For examples:

1 John 2:15 KJV

Do Not Love the World

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.



John 15:19 KJV

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.



The choice isn't that of choosing to follow your xtian prejudices and discriminate while being a business, but to follow the Jesus of your religion and not be 'of the world' and be in business.  It's quite obvious you can't follow Jesus and be a capitalist.   :wink:

LOL!  I didn't think Hank would touch this.   :biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Is there some cogent reason as to why you don't want to touch that, Hank?

I would think you'd be up on the apologetics for your claimed beliefs.   :wink:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa