Indiana's Religious Freedom Legislation

[Palehorse]

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The city of Indianapolis will be bankrupt within 5 years if this law is allowed to go forward unchallenged. The CIB alone will likely go belly up before that 5 year period, as these conventions and other events begin going to other states to hold their events. The VERY events used to justify the sunset tax imposed upon Marion County and the collar counties; which as of this moment now has had it's "sunset" moved out decades because of some ignorant legislation that panders to Christian extremists. . . .

Bookmark this Hank, because just as soon as it happens I will be reposting it and reminding you and everyone else of just how "benign" you consider this law to be. . .

[me]

The problem with doing that is it just blossoms from there. Like anything else in this world, you allow one thing and then it becomes three, then 12, and so on.

Using a similar approach, why can't all these religious zealots just go somewhere else rather than drag down an entire state?
Why can't those who are causing all this crap just patronize another business rather than try to make someone go against their beliefs to serve them?

The city of Indianapolis will be bankrupt within 5 years if this law is allowed to go forward unchallenged. The CIB alone will likely go belly up before that 5 year period, as these conventions and other events begin going to other states to hold their events. The VERY events used to justify the sunset tax imposed upon Marion County and the collar counties; which as of this moment now has had it's "sunset" moved out decades because of some ignorant legislation that panders to Christian extremists. It will just be a matter of time before it will become other religions as well, for constitutionally we are REQUIRED to treat all the exact same way. You cannot pander to one without pandering to all.

It just blows me away that so few see this!

All this is just pure crazy IMO. Why can't these malcontents just go elsewhere and do business rather than make a big deal out of something and force other people to do something that is against their beliefs or face losing everything they have through a law suit. Just don't patronize those businesses you find objectionable period. There should never have been a need for this law in the first place. Not only is the law wrong the reason someone felt it necessary to make it wrong. Everyone wants things their way and it just isn't possible to please everyone.
Example, someone was reading something to my grandson's wife at work yesterday and they were away from everyone. A woman was walking past and told the one reading she found it objectionable and she should quit reading it even though she was invading their space and should have walked on rather than state, rather rudely I might add, that the girl had to quit reading what she was reading. That is just wrong. What the hell is wrong with people today?

[me]

50 million plus in lost revenues to the city of Indianapolis right out of the gate. And a lot more where that came from. . . Enough said.

For no other reason than to prove a point and "get even". What a crock. Both the the reason for the legislation and the cause of it having to be even considered are totally wrong. If you don't understand that then so be it. They are infringing on one persons right and granting another's because they whine louder.

[Palehorse]

Me. . . .

Why can't those who are causing all this crap just patronize another business rather than try to make someone go against their beliefs to serve them? . . .

Why even attempt to legitimize discrimination in the first place?

This state will now lose millions in revenues over some horse-shit legislation that was not necessary except to the religious extremists, and those same businesses will lose consumer traffic. The very same consumer traffic many here touted as justification for the city of Indianapolis to host a super bowl via its "generation of millions of dollars" to those businesses.

Big business, and yes even the storied NCAA whose Hall of Fame and HQ reside in downtown Indianapolis, are doing just what you say; they're refusing to do business with the entire state AND patronizing other states that do not have such discriminatory laws on the books.

[Palehorse]

For no other reason than to prove a point and "get even". What a crock. Both the the reason for the legislation and the cause of it having to be even considered are totally wrong. If you don't understand that then so be it. They are infringing on one persons right and granting another's because they whine louder.

Define "they". . . If you are referring to the LGBT community then you just took your discrimination to a whole new level. 

[Palehorse]

[me]

Define "they". . . If you are referring to the LGBT community then you just took your discrimination to a whole new level. 

The people who want everything their way is what I'm referring to whether it be gays, blacks, religious groups, just those groups or people who always have to be whining about their rights but not considering the rights of others. Now if you think that is discrimination too bad. It is simply not allowing one group of people to control how someone thinks or feels and, even more importantly, who they have to do business with. I'm waiting to see the grocery store full of shirtless shoeless people because they start whining discrimination too. 

[Palehorse]

Is this the Salem Witch Trials or March 26, 2015 in Indiana?

If you have to pass a law that hurts people in order to prove your morals or faith, then you have no morals and faith to prove.

[Locutus]

The people who want everything their way is what I'm referring to whether it be gays, blacks, religious groups, just those groups or people who always have to be whining about their rights but not considering the rights of others. Now if you think that is discrimination too bad. It is simply not allowing one group of people to control how someone thinks or feels and, even more importantly, who they have to do business with. I'm waiting to see the grocery store full of shirtless shoeless people because they start whining discrimination too. 

There's really no difference.

[Palehorse]

This state would have been far better served in strengthening its anti-discriminatory laws instead of enabling discrimination! 

[Palehorse]

Here we see some of the true motivation for this crap:


Governor Mike Pence
5 hrs ·
Today I signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, because I support the freedom of religion for every Hoosier of every faith.
The Constitution of the United States and the Indiana Constitution both provide strong recognition of the freedom of religion but today, many people of faith feel their religious liberty is under attack by government action.
One need look no further than the recent litigation concerning the Affordable Care Act. A private business and our own University of Notre Dame had to file lawsuits challenging provisions that required them to offer insurance coverage in violation of their religious views. . . .


It's fucking healthcare legislation sour grapes, and this asshat is enabling discrimination over it! 

[Palehorse]

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/senate/101#document-92bab197

What a bunch of dumbasses. Read this law and think of Sharia Law while you are doing it. The same Sharia Law you morons accused our POTUS of enabling.

This bill enables it!

It also gives discrimination legal validity! 

[Henry Hawk]

Dumbasses??

Morons??

Really?

You never over react either....it is indeed bookmarked ....

Why is it liberals are so hateful?  You called me a dumbass for what pH?  You honestly think those who disagree are dumbasses?

Like I said, and time will support me on this, it is just liberal hyperbole!

[Palehorse]

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Like I said, and time will support me on this, it is just liberal hyperbole!

We'll see what you think when an Indiana, Muslim owned business imposes Sharia Law upon its employees. . .

And when the city of Indianapolis goes bankrupt. . .

When Lucas Oil Stadium is either shuttered or given to the Colts gratis.

When Victory Field is shuttered. . .

This state will indeed lose so much money it may itself go bankrupt over the next decade, as the sparse businesses in this state begin to flee.

*The rest of your post is hyperbole and doesn't rate a response.

[Palehorse]

It's just a matter of time before the lawsuits begin that will challenge the constitutionality of this damnable piece of legislation.