Common Core

[Purplelady1040]

It was a typo. How many times have you noticed me misspelling anything? disipline.....There are you happy? And as for the rest you can just take you're charts and graphs and stuff them since you don't seem to grasp they can be made to look like anything the person doing them desires by omitting certain data.

Graphs and charts that show what learning is is often not made up. That can be caught too easily and schools would get in trouble for that.
By the way, private schools expect parents who have special need kids to pay out of their pocket for an aide. We wouldn't and chose to send our children to public schools where aides are paid by the school district not the parents.

[Locutus]

It was a typo. How many times have you noticed me misspelling anything? disipline.....There are you happy? And as for the rest you can just take you're charts and graphs and stuff them since you don't seem to grasp they can be made to look like anything the person doing them desires by omitting certain data.

Have you ever found a chart or graph that you believe?   

[Bo D]

you can just take you're charts and graphs and stuff them since you don't seem to grasp they can be made to look like anything the person doing them desires by omitting certain data.

And there were no charts and graphs in the quote I posted. Just raw data. But I should have known that someone with less than 5th grade reading skills could understand it.

[me]

Graphs and charts that show what learning is is often not made up. That can be caught too easily and schools would get in trouble for that.
By the way, private schools expect parents who have special need kids to pay out of their pocket for an aide. We wouldn't and chose to send our children to public schools where aides are paid by the school district not the parents.

Aides are paid through the taxes collected by government for the schools which means we all pay for them so the parent who chooses a private school pays, just like those who have no kids, for something they're not getting the benifit of. The schools can't get in trouble if the person doing the chart or graph uses only specific information to make their particular outcome to their benefit by simply omitting data from certain areas or school districts which would make their charts unfavorable.

[Purplelady1040]

Aides are paid through the taxes collected by government for the schools which means we all pay for them so the parent who chooses a private school pays, just like those who have no kids, for something they're not getting the benifit of. The schools can't get in trouble if the person doing the chart or graph uses only specific information to make their particular outcome to their benefit by simply omitting data from certain areas or school districts which would make their charts unfavorable.

Oh my God, yes, a school can get in trouble for having data and graphs inflated.  They can get in lots of trouble with their state for inflating graphs and data so most don't do it! Yes, taxes pay for aided but private schools expect parents to pay right out of their pocket along with tuition. I am telling you that most private schools don't have aides because they don't have to accommodate for special need kids! Parents aren't going to pay for an aide along with tuition when they can send to  schools where aides are paid by school districts! Most schools have aides to work with special need kids.

[me]

Oh my God, yes, a school can get in trouble for having data and graphs inflated.  They can get in lots of trouble with their state for inflating graphs and data so most don't do it! Yes, taxes pay for aided but private schools expect parents to pay right out of their pocket along with tuition. I am telling you that most private schools don't have aides because they don't have to accommodate for special need kids! Parents aren't going to pay for an aide along with tuition when they can send to  schools where aides are paid by school districts! Most schools have aides to work with special need kids.

It would not be the schools inflating data graphs it would be the person doing an article picking and choosing the areas they go to to collect the data from the schools to make their graphs for the aticle which would use only the areas which benefit them.

Yes, most have schools with aides for special needs kids but some would still choose to put their kids in private schools and pay for an aide or, depending on the degree of disability, will home school them.

[Purplelady1040]

It would not be the schools inflating data graphs it would be the person doing an article picking and choosing the areas they go to to collect the data from the schools to make their graphs for the aticle which would use only the areas which benefit them.

Yes, most have schools with aides for special needs kids but some would still choose to put their kids in private schools and pay for an aide or, depending on the degree of disability, will home school them.

Where do you think the person who is doing the article gets their data but from schools and if a reporter did inflate graphs and data, I am betting that the reporter could and would be sued. And no most parents are not going to pay for an aide in a private school along with tuition when they are provided by the school district based on funding. Homeschooled kids are often antisocial and cannot function in the real world with people!

[me]

Where do you think the person who is doing the article gets their data but from schools and if a reporter did inflate graphs and data, I am betting that the reporter could and would be sued. And no most parents are not going to pay for an aide in a private school along with tuition when they are provided by the school district based on funding. Homeschooled kids are often antisocial and cannot function in the real world with people!

Picking and choosing which info/areas to include and inflating the actual graphs are two different things.

[Purplelady1040]

Picking and choosing which info/areas to include and inflating the actual graphs are two different things.

No, it isn't. À reporter who would pick and choose information is the same as inflating facts. A reporter can be sued for that!

[me]

No, it isn't. À reporter who would pick and choose information is the same as inflating facts. A reporter can be sued for that!

You really don't get it do you?

[Bo D]

Picking and choosing which info/areas to include and inflating the actual graphs are two different things.

If you could read, you would see that the study ...

1. Wasn't done by "reporters." It was published by a "team of education professors at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign."
2. The scope of the study wasn't restricted to any one area. It was nationwide.
3. It was backed up by another independent study.

[Purplelady1040]

If you could read, you would see that the study ...

1. Wasn't done by "reporters." It was published by a "team of education professors at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign."
2. The scope of the study was restricted to any one area. It was nationwide.
3. It was backed up by another independent study.

She doesn't get that if someone is picking and choosing what to put in an article than they must be trying to inflate figures and that can get any school in trouble with their state education department.

[me]

She doesn't get that if someone is picking and choosing what to put in an article than they must be trying to inflate figures and that can get any school in trouble with their state education department.

Anyone can use any info they choose to make a point there are no info police to tell anyone which place to get their information as long as the information they use as examples is correct. Got it now?

[Bo D]

One only has to read this thread to understand ....

"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
― Benjamin Franklin

[Purplelady1040]

Anyone can use any info they choose to make a point there are no info police to tell anyone which place to get their information as long as the information they use as examples is correct. Got it now?

I get that you don't have a clue. No education department is going to give out misinformation and make themselves look like fools.