Common Core

[Purplelady1040]

You all obviously haven't thought this through very well but instead are all caught up in the flash and glitter of it. Lots of ideas sound good in theory or on paper but don't work out in the real world because in, the long run, they aren't really practical. I think the parents who can send their kids to private schools or home school have the right idea.

Yes, I have thought it through. What part of I am in the schools daily and have school children did you not understand. I guess you didn't see where my son couldn't get the basics of math but can get higher math. He makes A's in Math and does it in Geometry, Quadritic Algebra and Trig. I am not caught up in flash and glitter but what works with kids to make them achieve! Private schools are a joke and cannot accommodate for kids with learning issues. Homeschooling kids is often raising kids to be antisocial and not able to function in the real world. A lot of private schools and home schools are not accredited so getting into a college if that is what they want doesn't allow them into that and some jobs don't hire without proper accredited work.
The schools I work in have to do common core and the kids achieve it well and do well! The high school has given out $8 million in scholarships this past year and the kids made a 53% rate on AP exams. Kids in grades K-12 made proficient and distinguished in all subjects. You may as well understand that national standards are going to be set to hopefully have us compete with kids abroad!
This will work and obviously, from parents, kids and educators wanted this in order to be able to succeed. In order to move ahead, one often has to let go of the past!

[Exterminator]

What do the following entities from history have in common with Christianity?

Ha!  I didn't have to look it up or read your explanation because I already knew!  I've often wondered how Christians come to terms with knowing that other religions were telling almost exactly the same story thousands of years before their messiah is supposed to have been here.

[Bo D]

I have a son who couldn't grasp the basic in math but can do high Algebra and Geometry!

I can personally back that up. To this day, I have a hard time doing simple arithmetic in my head. I can ace any advanced calculus or trig test you can throw at me, but for the life of me I can't give a quick answer when you ask me "What's 231 - 114?"

And - 'me' - it isn't because I wasn't taught the "basics." I can do it with pencil and paper all day long.

Question for you, me ... you keep talking about "basics" - who taught you the basics of writing? I hope you didn't learn it in private school, because you ought to get a refund for the tuition.

[Purplelady1040]

I can personally back that up. To this day, I have a hard time doing simple arithmetic in my head. I can ace any advanced calculus or trig test you can throw at me, but for the life of me I can't give a quick answer when you ask me "What's 231 - 114?"

And - 'me' - it isn't because I wasn't taught the "basics." I can do it with pencil and paper all day long.

Question for you, me ... you keep talking about "basics" - who taught you the basics of writing? I hope you didn't learn it in private school, because you ought to get a refund for the tuition.

My husband went to a private schools and he did okay. I didn't. I got my education from a free public school. We attempted, notice I state attempts to send our son to a private school and because he was AD/HD they asked us to leave because they can't accommodate for him and kids like him.

[Purplelady1040]

I personally wouldn't send a dog to some of the private schools that attempt to teach kids. Many of the teachers are not certified to teach and many of the kids are a big fish in a small pond, when they attempt to give college a try, they often fail because they can't succeed at a big college and bomb out.

[me]

I personally wouldn't send a dog to some of the private schools that attempt to teach kids. Many of the teachers are not certified to teach and many of the kids are a big fish in a small pond, when they attempt to give college a try, they often fail because they can't succeed at a big college and bomb out.

Hum, that's news to me. Private schools are more disiplened and are ahead of public schools academically. I haven't heard of any teachers or other students being beaten up in private schools lately either which means students aren't in fear and there is a better learning atmmosphere.

[Purplelady1040]

Hum, that's news to me. Private schools are more disiplened and are ahead of public schools academically. I haven't heard of any teachers or other students being beaten up in private schools lately either which means students aren't in fear and there is a better learning atmmosphere.

Then you haven't been around many private schools. Bullying and substance abuse is just as big a problem in private schools than it is public's but one doesn't hear about it. There is also no accommodating for kids with special needs but you probably didn't realize that. And no that is a myth that private schools are academically ahead of public schools.

[Palehorse]

If they can't learn the basics how are they going to learn something even more complicated right out of the shoot even if the teacher's bar is raised? And what is new about all kids not being able to learn the basics it's always been that way. The first thing they should do is find out how a child learns best, auditory, sight, or touch then split them into groups accordingly and teach them the way they learn best. By that I mean assign them into classrooms according to their learning abilities/type.  Each teacher should be taught how to teach all three types. This test could be given in kindergarten or even pre-school.

Do you realize just how costly such an endeavor would be to local school systems? Where is that money coming from?

Fact is that without the federal subsidizations that each state / community receives for meeting federal guidelines, most of us would be unable to afford the taxes on the property we own because the educational tax increases necessary to support such a organizational structure would be beyond what any of us could afford. Moreover, the lion's share of communities nation-wide would be bankrupted by it.

There are teachers that incorporate a wide variety of methods in order to accommodate the learning styles of the students they are charged with teaching. It is a tedious endeavor and results in high burn out rates and turnover. Not to mention those "armchair quarterbacking parents" that feel free to prolifically criticize those teachers for their efforts. . .

[me]

I know ya'll won't get this but I'm gonna put it here anyway.

         
        Some years ago, there was a Mensa Convention in San Francisco .
        Mensa, as you know, is a national organization for people who have an
        IQ of 140 or higher.

        Several of the Mensa members went out for lunch at a local cafe.
        When they sat down, one of them discovered that their salt shaker
        contained pepper, and their pepper shaker was full of salt. How
        could they swap the contents of the two bottles without spilling any,
        and using only the implements at hand? Clearly this was a job
        for Mensa minds.

        The group debated the problem and presented ideas and finally, came up
        with a brilliant solution involving a napkin, a straw, and an empty saucer.

        They called the waitress over to dazzle her with their solution.

        "Ma'am," they said, "we couldn't help but notice that the pepper
        shaker contains salt and the salt shaker had pepper. "

        But before they could finish the waitress interrupted them.  "Oh, sorry about

         that."  She leaned over the table, unscrewed the caps of both bottles, and

          switched them.

          There was dead silence at the Mensa table.

This reminds me of our government: solutions could be so simple, but the
brilliant minds in Washington have to make them so complicated.

[Bo D]

I know ya'll won't get this but I'm gonna put it here anyway.

         

Wait for it ... next thing she'll come up with is the old "smart people ain't got no common sense."

[Exterminator]

Wait for it ... next thing she'll come up with is the old "smart people ain't got no common sense."

At the end of the day, the waitress was still serving them lunch.   

[Purplelady1040]

I am still waiting for her to say that private schools do accommodate special needs kids because they don't. They don't have the means or the aides to accommodate special needs kids whether they are AD/HD or mentally and physically challenged.

[Bo D]

I am still waiting for her to say that private schools do accommodate special needs kids because they don't. They don't have the means or the aides to accommodate special needs kids whether they are AD/HD or mentally and physically challenged.

Yeah ... well I'm waiting for her to explain that "private schools are ahead" nonsense. Neither of us will ever get a lucid answer.

[me]

I am still waiting for her to say that private schools do accommodate special needs kids because they don't. They don't have the means or the aides to accommodate special needs kids whether they are AD/HD or mentally and physically challenged.

But there are private schools for kids with special needs.

[Purplelady1040]

But there are private schools for kids with special needs.

No, there isn't. Those so called private schools are called institutions not a private school of learning. Private schools do not accommodate to those with special needs because they don't have too.