Common Core

[Exterminator]

I chose that example - "Quote accurately from a text when explaining what the text says explicitly and when drawing inferences from the text." - because I knew you would prove that you're not competent at the 5th grade level.

LMAO!   

[Bo D]

(referring to me's math example)

So if you can't do those things you're not even competent at the first grade level. Of course, we suspected that all along.

[Bo D]

LMAO!   

I know, right?

First she complains "No where does it define what the "standard" really is "

And then she cries because she doesn't meet the standard.

[Purplelady1040]

I was taught the basics plus short cuts not that crap they're laying on the kids now from what I seen on the example given in BoD's posted link. It was more simple and easy to understand plus, like I mentioned, he made it fun and also took time with the ones who didn't understand. Oh, and there were 32 in my class and he had no teachers helper.

Teachers don't always gets aides and they have to accommodate for several different type of kids in a class. Some kids have IEP's and 504's. You seem to think every kid learns the same way and they don't. I am in the class room as a substitute teacher and as an aide. I know kids can't learn the basics the same way and have to learn it different ways. I have taught math using a matrix model and wished I had had that when I was in school. Quit pigeonholing kids and thinking they can all learn the same way.

[me]

Teachers don't always gets aides and they have to accommodate for several different type of kids in a class. Some kids have IEP's and 504's. You seem to think every kid learns the same way and they don't. I am in the class room as a substitute teacher and as an aide. I know kids can't learn the basics the same way and have to learn it different ways. I have taught math using a matrix model and wished I had had that when I was in school. Quit pigeonholing kids and thinking they can all learn the same way.

No, they don't all learn the same which is why that teacher took extra time with the ones who still didn't get it. What I was referring to on the teachers aide part was that he was still able to teach effectively even with a class that large and no help unlike today where they have a screaming fit if the class is that large and need help. What I am saying is why start with all that crap without first teaching the basics and building on a foundation rather than starting with the main structure and no foundation to make the building stronger? They choose the best students to teach the advanced things to in other countries like China they don't just figure everyone is on the same level and expect them all to do it. This one size fits all theory is for the birds.

[me]

I know, right?

First she complains "No where does it define what the "standard" really is "

And then she cries because she doesn't meet the standard.

No where does that "standard" state what it takes to actually make the grade. You aren't understanding where I'm coming from on this at all because you're too caught up in all that flash and glitter to see it.

[Bo D]

Quit pigeonholing kids and thinking they can all learn the same way.

[Bo D]

No where does that "standard" state what it takes to actually make the grade. You aren't understanding where I'm coming from on this at all because you're too caught up in all that flash and glitter to see it.

No. I do understand. And you just keep offering further proof of your ignorance with every post you make.

[Purplelady1040]

No, they don't all learn the same which is why that teacher took extra time with the ones who still didn't get it. What I was referring to on the teachers aide part was that he was still able to teach effectively even with a class that large and no help unlike today where they have a screaming fit if the class is that large and need help. What I am saying is why start with all that crap without first teaching the basics and building on a foundation rather than starting with the main structure and no foundation to make the building stronger? They choose the best students to teach the advanced things to in other countries like China they don't just figure everyone is on the same level and expect them all to do it. This one size fits all theory is for the birds.

Obviously, you haven't set foot in a class room because I know a lot of teachers who accommodate for all kids and without the benefit of aides. Again, not all kids learn the basics the same way and you thinking that shows how out  of touch you are. There are kids who can't get the basics and your saying they should be able too shows how closeminded you are. I have anywhere from 25-30 kids a class period, have to accommodate for those who don't get it and without an aide. Most of the teachers I sub for don't have aides.

[Purplelady1040]

No where does that "standard" state what it takes to actually make the grade. You aren't understanding where I'm coming from on this at all because you're too caught up in all that flash and glitter to see it.

Every state and district has standards that is used to assess what a kid has and hasn't learned. Oh my God, you really need to ask the teachers about standards and what is taught for a child to move ahead. Most kids have to be proficient to be able to move ahead and show mastery of subject content. I always love it when people seem to think they know how it really works in schools and often haven't the simplest clue of how it works. Those who can teach and work in the education field, those who can't simply stout their ignorance when they know nothing about how schools and standards work.

[Purplelady1040]

By the way, last time I checked we are in America and not China or Europe. As much as we need to compete with them; I don't think we are ever going to be able too.

[Locutus]

By the way, last time I checked we are in America and not China or Europe. As much as we need to compete with them; I don't think we are ever going to be able too.

Why?

[me]

No, they don't all learn the same which is why that teacher took extra time with the ones who still didn't get it. What I was referring to on the teachers aide part was that he was still able to teach effectively even with a class that large and no help unlike today where they have a screaming fit if the class is that large and need help. What I am saying is why start with all that crap without first teaching the basics and building on a foundation rather than starting with the main structure and no foundation to make the building stronger? They choose the best students to teach the advanced things to in other countries like China they don't just figure everyone is on the same level and expect them all to do it. This one size fits all theory is for the birds.

Obviously, you haven't set foot in a class room because I know a lot of teachers who accommodate for all kids and without the benefit of aides. Again, not all kids learn the basics the same way and you thinking that shows how out  of touch you are. There are kids who can't get the basics and your saying they should be able too shows how closeminded you are. I have anywhere from 25-30 kids a class period, have to accommodate for those who don't get it and without an aide. Most of the teachers I sub for don't have aides.

I did not say that and if they can't get the basics how are they going to get this new stuff? I said that teacher took extra time with the ones who didn't get it to teach them. I also have relatives and friends who are teachers both in Indiana and some other states and it is getting ridiculous.

[me]

By the way, last time I checked we are in America and not China or Europe. As much as we need to compete with them; I don't think we are ever going to be able too.

No we aren't, it's one size fits all here.

[Henry Hawk]

This whole discussion took off when somebody on here slammed Ted Cruz for wanting to get away from Common Core.  There are claims that Cruz wants to "de-education" our kids.

Cruz merely stated on a twitter...Federal govt has no business sticking its nose in education. We need to repeal every word of Common Core!

When he is referring to our Federal govt butting out, he is simply stating that he does not want the federal bureaucrats and national organizations setting the standards, when what he wants, like most Americans, want more input from parents, teachers and taxpayers of those States, counties and townships. 

Common core forces teachers to teach to the centralized set of standards, it takes away the individual touch by talented teachers to bring out the best in each kid. Common Core is just a mandate by federal bureaucrats. THAT is what most republicans dislike about it.

It is really a simple message, and I don't quite understand why the commotion over Cruz's remarks, other than just not liking him.