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Baby Drop Boxes?

Started by Exterminator, February 25, 2015, 10:15:50 AM

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Y

AND...the U.S. doesn't have "the highest teen birth rate of any of the world's developed nations".

Hell, a simple goggle (  :biggrin: ) shows that.   :wink:
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 02, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
...It seems that it is YOUR ILK, that enables girls to get pregnant...

I have to admit, I've done my level best over time.   :icon_twisted:

:rotfl:
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 02, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
How are we against education?  Seriously?  There isn't really much to learn about getting pregnant.  It is taught in middle school, the whole birds and bees thing.  It seems that it is YOUR ILK, that enables girls to get pregnant, we already spend million of $$ for  family planning services, and yet it continues to be a problem.

First off, the entire issue of sex is one of those I put under the heading of 'You can't fool Mother Nature!'.  You can forbid it, make laws against it, preach religion against it, ad infinitum and it's still going to happen when the participants want it to happen.  Humans are wired to have sex and you can't legislate anything - age, partners, etc. - about it and make it work. 

That's one of the major problems with Amerika and one of the curses from our crazy 'puritan' religious past.  It curses people and turns them into busybody authoritarians trying to legislate false morality.

If Amerika would stop worrying about other people having sex and just provide education and the proper health care at any age the interest in sex begins, unintentional births would decrease.  But, as long as Amerika keeps acting stupid about sex we're going to have the same unintended consequences.

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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Now, as far as the 'Baby Drop Boxes', without further plan elaboration I see the present criticisms as sound and the plan as presented unsound.

IMO, it's looking at the tail end of the problem instead of before it begins...but lordy them thar religious folks can't have us really talking to dem' chirrins' about sex and providing birth control to them.  Oh lordy no!   :rolleyes:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

Along with the birth control should be showing the responsibility of having a child and. rather than being told a fetus is not a life, they should be shown how a baby develops and the different stages of pregnancy rather than just told you have the option of getting an abortion if you get pregnant. A friend of my daughters is having a hard time dealing with having had a couple of abortions when she was a teen and didn't fully realize what was going on at the time. She is also childless now because of the damage done to her during the last abortion which was done at a clinic. A drop box would have been a much better choice for her as it turns out.
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Exterminator

Quote from: Y on March 02, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
I have to admit, I've done my level best over time.   :icon_twisted:

:rotfl:

:biggrin:  I've practiced a lot!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 02, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
A friend of my daughters is having a hard time dealing with having had a couple of abortions when she was a teen and didn't fully realize what was going on at the time. She is also childless now because of the damage done to her during the last abortion which was done at a clinic. A drop box would have been a much better choice for her as it turns out.

Aw, poor thing.   :rolleyes:  Maybe having been responsible would have been a better choice?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2015, 08:17:42 AM
Aw, poor thing.   :rolleyes:  Maybe having been responsible would have been a better choice?
She realizes that now that it's too late. All she knew then was she didn't have to be responsible for her actions because she could just go get an abortion.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 03, 2015, 09:44:35 AM
She realizes that now that it's too late. All she knew then was she didn't have to be responsible for her actions because she could just go get an abortion.

If she was using abortion as birth control, let's all be happy that she can't reproduce.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2015, 10:19:58 AM
If she was using abortion as birth control, let's all be happy that she can't reproduce.
:rolleyes:
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Anne

More information on the baby boxes. According to article in Anderson Herald Bulletin and channel 4 news yesterday, the baby boxes include both a warming and cooling capacity and have three separate alarms to alert authorities that a baby has been put into the baby box. The boxes would be installed in safe haven areas (hospitals, police stations, fire stations and churches to name a few).

In response to Y, you are right it is an end response to the problem, but IMO it is better than doing nothing, unless of course you think the child would be better off dead than adopted.

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Y on March 02, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
I have to admit, I've done my level best over time.   :icon_twisted:

:rotfl:

Okay, I have to admit, I was slow on getting this one at first.........pretty good! :rotfl:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on March 03, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
According to article in Anderson Herald Bulletin and channel 4 news yesterday, the baby boxes include both a warming and cooling capacity and have three separate alarms to alert authorities that a baby has been put into the baby box.

Pie in the sky...show me a completed box that has all of these things.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
Pie in the sky...show me a completed box that has all of these things.



When someone opens the metal flap on the street, an alarm sounds upstairs notifying social workers, who are available 24 hours a day. The mother then sets the baby inside and, after a two-minute interval, a weight-triggered sensor sends another, louder signal. Once the baby is inside, the box warms up and sends a call to a nearby ambulance service.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 03, 2015, 12:20:40 PM


When someone opens the metal flap on the street, an alarm sounds upstairs notifying social workers, who are available 24 hours a day. The mother then sets the baby inside and, after a two-minute interval, a weight-triggered sensor sends another, louder signal. Once the baby is inside, the box warms up and sends a call to a nearby ambulance service.

That's in Italy, numb-nuts.  Show me a completed box from the company they're talking about in the original story that has all of these features.  What I am specifically interested in seeing is an air conditioning unit small enough to make this a reality so that a kid stuffed into one of these when it's 100 degrees outside doesn't cook before anyone gets to it.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.