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Locutus

#735
March 13, 2016, 05:47:19 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on March 13, 2016, 04:06:46 PM


This is H. Ross Perot. Born to an upper-middle income family in Texas in 1930, he worked odd jobs and delivered newspapers as a youth to earn money. In 1949, he enrolled in the U.S. Naval Academy and, after serving as the class president in both his junior and senior years and graduating with honors, served in the U.S. Navy until 1957. In 1962, he founded Electronic Data Systems as a one-man data processing operation that would eventually employ 70,000 people in high-paying tech sector jobs. In 1979, Perot organized and sponsored a team of prior special forces operatives who successfully rescued two EDS employees that had been arrested and were being held by Iran. EDS was sold to General Motors in 1984 for $2.5 billion and continues to do business today as HP Enterprise Services with 140,000 employees in 60 countries.

In 1988, Perot founded Perot Systems, an IT service provider that ultimately employed 23.000 people, again in high-paying tech sector jobs, and had an annual revenue of $2.8 billion. It was sold to Dell in 2009 for $3.9 billion.

Perot is a successful, self-made businessman who, with a net worth of approximately $4.1 billion, remains one of the richest men in America. He has been married to the same woman for 60 years. He believes in hard work and has made his own children work for what they have in life as well.

In contrast, we have Donald Trump. Born a millionaire, he never truly worked for anything, nor have his children. He has a string of failed businesses, most notably his casinos, which have been forced into bankruptcy four times, racking up hundreds of millions of dollars in debt while his competitors reaped record profits. Most of the jobs he has ever created have been minimum wage in the service sector. He has become fabulously wealthy by paying himself huge salaries while bilking investors out of their money.

Trump is not a successful businessman, he is a con man.

In 1992 Perot and again in 1996, Perot ran for president. Everything he said would happen as a result of NAFTA did. People mocked and laughed at him. Many of the same people who did so then are Trump supporters now. This is what's wrong with the United States. Think about it.

^^ Every bit of that is true.  :yes:
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Palehorse

#736
March 13, 2016, 07:21:55 PM
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Locutus

#737
March 13, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
:eek: :eek:   

Bat shit crazy stuff here from Ted Cruz's father. 

https://www.youtube.com/v/J0_KKg6Wh3Q

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

AbbyTC

#738
March 13, 2016, 10:50:29 PM
Quote from: Locutus on March 13, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
:eek: :eek:   

Bat shit crazy stuff here from Ted Cruz's father. 

https://www.youtube.com/v/J0_KKg6Wh3Q

Geesh.  Bat shit crazy is right.
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Locutus

#739
March 13, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
If anyone needs a reason NOT to vote for Ted Cruz, there are several mentioned in that little prayer they had at the end of that video. 

:spooked:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#740
March 14, 2016, 07:54:23 AM
Even though I am a Christian, that kind of creeps me out a tad.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#741
March 14, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on March 13, 2016, 04:06:46 PM
Trump is not a successful businessman, he is a con man.
There is plenty to argue about here, but I am not going to for several reasons.........the only thing that really pops out at me is there is a great argument to be made that Bernie is just as much of a 'con man' as Trump.  Bernie is telling young and naive voters that he is going to make college tuition free....give them free "family leave" and promising them $15 min wage...........and none of that is going to ever happen.  He is conning them for votes.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#742
March 14, 2016, 08:16:35 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 14, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
There is plenty to argue about here, but I am not going to for several reasons.........the only thing that really pops out at me is there is a great argument to be made that Bernie is just as much of a 'con man' as Trump.  Bernie is telling young and naive voters that he is going to make college tuition free....give them free "family leave" and promising them $15 min wage...........and none of that is going to ever happen.  He is conning them for votes.

One may argue that Bernie is trying to be a con man but not very effectively.  Trump has been one his entire life.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#743
March 14, 2016, 08:47:49 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on March 14, 2016, 08:16:35 AM
One may argue that Bernie is trying to be a con man but not very effectively.  Trump has been one his entire life.
Trump was an effective/successful businessman all his life.......and now wants to be an effective/successful POTUS........keywords here is "effective/successful".
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#744
March 14, 2016, 09:06:47 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 14, 2016, 08:47:49 AM
Trump was an effective/successful businessman all his life.......and now wants to be an effective/successful POTUS........keywords here is "effective/successful".

I gave you an example of a successful businessman, someone who created real wealth and real jobs without other losing their asses in the process.  People who enrich themselves at the expense of others are scum.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#745
March 14, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on March 14, 2016, 09:06:47 AM
I gave you an example of a successful businessman, someone who created real wealth and real jobs without other losing their asses in the process.  People who enrich themselves at the expense of others are scum.

Politicians are scum...so we still need to vote.  Which scum is going to benefit my country the best?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#746
March 14, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 14, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
Politicians are scum...so we still need to vote.  Which scum is going to benefit my country the best?

If Donald Trump is a jerk and a racist, are you a jerk and a racist for supporting him? 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#747
March 14, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Locutus on March 14, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
If Donald Trump is a jerk and a racist, are you a jerk and a racist for supporting him? 
If Hillary Clinton is a crook and a liar are YOU a crook and a liar for supporting her?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#748
March 14, 2016, 11:23:37 AM
How is she a crook?  All politicians are liars. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

libby

#749
March 14, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
Donald Trump is a very clever con artist and liar.  And now there's some proof of how he got so rich: today's Washington Post, front page:

Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

I've read it and have been trying to pull it up to post here, but so far can't.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn
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