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Brian Williams scandal

Started by Henry Hawk, February 05, 2015, 11:34:03 AM

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."

     -- Danth's Law

:wink:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on February 08, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."

     -- Danth's Law

:wink:
Like ya'll aren't insisting that you've won.  Give me a break.  :rolleyes:
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on February 08, 2015, 05:35:23 PM
Like ya'll aren't insisting that you've won.  Give me a break.  :rolleyes:

I haven't seen anyone insisting anything save HH.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 08, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
Case and point!   ;D ;)

If you're going to use an idiom to reward yourself for your delusions of intellectual superiority, you might want to actually know what the idiom is.  Just sayin'...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on February 08, 2015, 05:31:46 PM
"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."

     -- Danth's Law

:wink:
Not insisting anything just stating a fact!😁
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 08, 2015, 05:57:39 PM
Not insisting anything just stating a fact!😁

Proverbs 16:18- Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

James 4:11- Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.


James 5:9 - Do not complain, brethren, against one another, so that you yourselves may not be judged; behold, the Judge is standing right at the door.

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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

NBCUniversal CEO Steve Burke met with his embattled news anchor Brian Williams on Tuesday morning as a team of the network's own journalists continued to fact-check several of Williams' claims about past stories he covered. . .

They have broken out the proctoscope and intend to not only explore the colon, but the large and small intestines while they are in there.

He's gone. I'd bet on it.

Another career ruined by knee-jerk reactionary Marching Morons!  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
NBCUniversal CEO Steve Burke met with his embattled news anchor Brian Williams on Tuesday morning as a team of the network's own journalists continued to fact-check several of Williams' claims about past stories he covered. . .

They have broken out the proctoscope and intend to not only explore the colon, but the large and small intestines while they are in there.

He's gone. I'd bet on it.

Another career ruined by knee-jerk reactionary Marching Morons!  :rant:


  I hope not.   :yes:  But it is amazing how the liars of Fox News can keep their jobs after all the lies they tell every day.   :rant:

Palehorse

Lester Holt, Williams' bullpen for his periods of time off for some time now, has always been another anchor personality that I prefer.

I remember him from his days with WBBM TV in Chicago from around 1986 until I moved out to the basketball capital of the world; aka Hell to a hockey aficionado and b-ball hater since infancy.

Holt is a personable guy, who I had the great pleasure of meeting once during a "Taste of Chicago" event one summer. And I was quite pleasantly surprised to see him pop up on NBC's Network newscasts starting in the mid 2000's.

I do not, however, look for him to be the long term solution / replacement for Williams. He is in the same age bracket as Williams, and with the big push toward a more youthful anchor presence and the resultant ageism it is driving, I look for NBC to begin pandering to the T and A crowd with its future choices surrounding the nightly news.  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on February 10, 2015, 06:57:12 PM

  I hope not.   :yes:  But it is amazing how the liars of Fox News can keep their jobs after all the lies they tell every day.   :rant:

It's amazing how that whole frigging network has not imploded over the drama and sensationalism their business plan incorporates into every single news cast and story.  :rant:

I have a colleague that is a professional camera operator and that has worked for years for ESPN covering NASCAR races and events. He just made the switch to FOX because the personality he has worked with made his hiring part of her deal with them.

I told him he was going home. He asked what I meant by that. I told him, Hell Jim, everybody knows your a damned liar so now you'll be amongst a network of like minded individuals!

He belly laughed over it. But these days you gotta go with the money. (I don't blame him).
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 07:05:26 PM
It's amazing how that whole frigging network has not imploded over the drama and sensationalism their business plan incorporates into every single news cast and story.  :rant:

I have a colleague that is a professional camera operator and that has worked for years for ESPN covering NASCAR races and events. He just made the switch to FOX because the personality he has worked with made his hiring part of her deal with them.

I told him he was going home. He asked what I meant by that. I told him, Hell Jim, everybody knows your a damned liar so now you'll be amongst a network of like minded individuals!

He belly laughed over it. But these days you gotta go with the money. (I don't blame him).

  He might have to swim in the bull shit at Fox, but he doesn't have to swallow it or believe it.   :yes: :biggrin:

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on February 10, 2015, 07:01:12 PM
Lester Holt, Williams' bullpen for his periods of time off for some time now, has always been another anchor personality that I prefer.

I remember him from his days with WBBM TV in Chicago from around 1986 until I moved out to the basketball capital of the world; aka Hell to a hockey aficionado and b-ball hater since infancy.

Holt is a personable guy, who I had the great pleasure of meeting once during a "Taste of Chicago" event one summer. And I was quite pleasantly surprised to see him pop up on NBC's Network newscasts starting in the mid 2000's.

I do not, however, look for him to be the long term solution / replacement for Williams. He is in the same age bracket as Williams, and with the big push toward a more youthful anchor presence and the resultant ageism it is driving, I look for NBC to begin pandering to the T and A crowd with its future choices surrounding the nightly news.  :rant:

Six month suspension, without pay. (He's gone) With the investigation ongoing.

Watch for Williams to take over the Daily Show with Stewart setting up to exit. . . And Williams will flip off NBC and all of those that castigated him.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

Well, it certainly is looking increasingly bad for Brian Williams, despite which side you may be on regarding this issue.  There are more 'embellishments' that have come to light in NBC's investigation. 

On May 3, 2011, just two days after the daring U.S. Navy SEAL Team 6 raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan, Williams said on his NBC News show, "Now, people might be hearing about SEAL Team 6. I happen to have the great honor of flying into Baghdad with them at the start of the war."

^^  This is now being called into question as well.  See below.

When asked about this claim, a Special Operations Command spokesman Ken McGraw told CNN: "We do not embed journalists with that unit or any other unit that conducts counterterrorism missions. Bottom line -- no."

Could Williams have simply hitched a ride into Iraq with SEAL Team 6 outside of the formal embedding process? This seems quite unlikely. A SEAL officer told CNN, "That early in the conflict, there were only missions taking place, not bouncing between outstations."


________________________________

Williams also claimed on the David Letterman show, that he had received a piece of the fuselage of the downed Black Hawk helicopter from the Bin Laden raid.

"About six weeks after the Bin Laden raid, I got a white envelope and in it was a thank-you note, unsigned. And in it was a piece of the fuselage of the blown-up Black Hawk in that courtyard. Sent to me by one of my friends."

.....

But what makes Williams claim that he was given a piece of the helicopter that went down at the compound in Abbottabad where bin Laden was living even more implausible is what happened the night of the raid.

Members of SEAL Team 6 were flying in "stealth" helicopters that radar can't detect. One of those helicopters crashed at bin Laden's compound in the first minute or so of the raid.

After the helicopter crashed, the SEALs killed both of bin Laden's bodyguards, his son and bin Laden. They then went around the compound picking up bin Laden's computer hard drives and documents.

What else has NBC News dug up on Williams?

All of this took about 30 minutes. By now there was great anxiety that Pakistani army units or others unknown would arrive at the scene, and there might be a firefight. The SEALs decided to leave as soon as possible.

The SEALs set explosives on the downed helicopter to blow it up so that its stealth technology would not fall into the wrong hands.

They detonated a massive charge inside the downed helicopter and immediately departed the scene. If Williams' story is true, then during all this intense drama one of the SEALs took the time to pick up a piece of the damaged helicopter fuselage that he would later send to his favorite news anchor.


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One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson