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Brian Williams scandal

Started by Henry Hawk, February 05, 2015, 11:34:03 AM

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Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2015, 11:01:04 PM
He was trying to inflate himself, that is not a stretch. He lied! He is the head anchor of NBC News! Telling a story like he did was wrong!  Why is it hard to not see the problem here? If he was just a celebrity, big deal, but he was put into a position of trust and he blew it!

Wow! You guys are cracking me up! It is not the end of the world, and I betya he ends up more popular than ever.

I have no doubt that his story changed somewhat over the course of the years, but whose story doesn't? 

If it were proven that he intentionally lied, then I'm on your side HH.  However this has turned into a witch hunt.  The segue of the national conversation into the Katrina situation clearly demonstrates that.  You parroted that Katrina crap, and as the picture shows, there were flood waters around the Ritz-Carlton in New Orleans during Katrina.   

Williams may have had recollection problems, but so did the people in the military who are speaking to this subject.  Who wouldn't have a problem with specifics when you're in a convoy of Chinook helicopters under enemy fire?   Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else for that matter could be expected to recall everything with 100% accuracy. 
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Henry Hawk

Again, HE IS THE HEAD ANCHOR at NBC!  His words matter.

The Katrina thing I just got it from Wikipedia and posted what they said. I don't know if that is true or not.  Remember one thing, he, himself admitted he got it wrong, after he was called out on it.

Honestly I am sorry it happened but it did, and it is no one else's fault but his.  If he told the truth this story never happens.  I don't think you could confuse if your helicopter was hit by attack or not! He said it was, then he said it wasn't after he got called out.  He is a journalist who is supposed to tell it like it is.  He didn't!

I am going to bed.
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Purplelady1040

I don't see where Williams was ever saying he was a hero. He was doing a job and made a mistake. How many times have some of us made mistakes at a job? I know I did when working. What happened is he caused people to not trust his being ethical in news and media people have a hard time being trusted as it is but a hero, he never said he was that or tried to portray he was a member of the military.

duke jupiter

Ole' Duke sez "Brian said it therefore he owns it.  Rush sez it and he owns it and heck Ole' Duke just said it so he owns it"

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
It is still, 100% his fault. Nobody to blame but himself. My ilk? Lol!

Yes, you and your ilk are assuming a lot of things surrounding intention and motivation in this incident, and have appointed yourselves judge,jury, and executioner in the process. As others have said here before; There is no proof surrounding motivation and intention. . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
If this had been Limbaugh, you and YOUR ilk would have his head on a platter.

We're talking about Williams here, not Limbaugh. That you do not see the difference between the two is an example of exactly why Williams' situation is such a travesty.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
By the way, I am quite aware just how close we are to a civil war, and your potus is largely responsible.

My POTUS? Don't you mean "OUR" POTUS?

That statement right there is exactly one of the root causes for the situation Williams finds himself in today.

You racists have been stirring the pot for just short of a decade now with your vitriol, to the point where it is now infecting not just politics, but the very fabric of this nation. The level of accountability and punishment, for even the slightest transgressions, has gone off the scale of acceptability and well into the absurd, forcing the bleating sheep amongst the population to steadfastly hold onto the us verses them perspective in all things public and private.

That you can rationalize the whole thing by pointing to one man as the singular cause of the situation is beyond absurdity.  :spooked:

Moreover, taking a WiKi posting as valid and truthful information, and using it to support your insidious position on Williams is a primary example of the laziness of you and your ilk. You take spoon fed information designed to evoke an emotional response from you as the unvarnished truth, then support it with even more conjecture without even a modicum of effort to look any further; focusing solely upon finding only that information that will support your position without regard to vetting of all available information prior to arriving at a decision or position on the matter.

One day each one of you will be subjected to the result of exactly the same methodology, and I dare say when it threatens your livelihood and family, you will be howling to the heavens about the unfairness of it all and about how you were wronged.  And I say this because as we all know, excrement runs downhill; and the standards once reserved for politicians and political candidates are now being used as the measure for an increasingly larger portion of humanity. One day it will be your turn. Perhaps even for something you posted herein.  :yes:
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Y

This is yet another RW/TP tempest in a teapot.

If anyone actually thought Brian Williams had any overiding journalistic integrity, all they had to do is think back on his blatant shilling for his daughter on the NBC national news.

Therefore, any complaints by the Right - and especially our local dimbulb ideologue Hank, who can ALWAYS be counted on to immediately parrot the extreme ideological position he's been spoon fed that day - about Williams 'journalistic integrity' are worthless vacuous bull excrement.  Williams can lay no claim to it.

Anyway, who doesn't know newcasters are good looking, pleasantly voiced, corporate shills always promoting their careers by practically any means available?

All that being said, Williams is a personable face who doesn't appear to color the news to any extremes with his own personal/corporate views.  That's about all you can expect from the national news any more. 

The corporations won - Edward R. Murrow and company lost.
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2015, 11:21:51 PM
. . .
The Katrina thing I just got it from Wikipedia and posted what they said. I don't know if that is true or not.  . . .

. . .

But you said it. You repeated it. Now you own it.

So now you have lied. You need to be held accountable. You need to resign from your job.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

He lied on national TV, and he is paying for it now.  Its that simple.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 08, 2015, 11:21:27 AM
:biggrin: just exactly as I figured!

What?  That your continued regurgitations of whatever RW/TP talking point you've been spoon fed that day are seen as ridiculous and get shredded by the intellectual class?

You don't get it, Hank.  You, Me, and your ilk are just the brainless parrots the RW/TP want to do their grunt work for them.  The RW/TP spoon feeds you their talking points and sends you idjuts out to proselytize or be sacrificed as the ideological idiots you are.

Do you really enjoy being a shill for their mean spirited stupidity?
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Henry Hawk

I enjoy annoying you!   :biggrin:

I work with some the most intelligent people in this state. Some of the top entrepreneurs, businessmen, architects, engineers, sales reps and nearly all of them are right wing minded people, so say whatever it takes to make you feel good about things, I know for a fact I am in good company.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 08, 2015, 11:34:46 AM
He lied on national TV, and he is paying for it now.  Its that simple.

You act as if it's been definitively proved that he lied - it hasn't.  Even the people involved have different recollections of what actually happened. 

I don't hear you RW/TP idjuts investigating any other of the people involved to see if any of them have made statements that have 'grown' over time or have no basis in fact.  Hell, most of them are/were military.  There's where your 'hero' BS might have some legs.

But no, you're just howling for the skin of a prominent face of the mass media you conspiracy nutz are always carping about.

I swear, I think there's something seriously wrong with you people.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 08, 2015, 11:34:46 AM
He lied on national TV, and he is paying for it now.  Its that simple.

And you lied on a national forum on the internet. Same thing. (Have you resigned your position yet?)

One day you will be held just as accountable for your lies as Williams is being for his faulty memory.

Then it will be; "Shit just got real", for you.

As a matter of fact, it has already begun in a lot of ways in which you are not presently aware of.

If you post something on your social networking account that your employer, or an individual in an authority position with your employer, deems unacceptable, you will be summarily fired with no recourse. Same holds true for any public venue.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville