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Net Neutrality

Started by Locutus, November 11, 2014, 02:38:14 PM

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me

Ok, so if they can't get the extra bucks from the companies I guess the customer will end up paying more, you know they'll get those bucks from somewhere.  :wink: Is that part covered under the "new" regulations?

Quote from: Locutus on March 03, 2015, 01:37:07 PM
Refer to the pictures on the very first page in this thread.  Particularly this part here:


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Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: me on March 03, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
Ok, so if they can't get the extra bucks from the companies I guess the customer will end up paying more, you know they'll get those bucks from somewhere.  :wink: Is that part covered under the "new" regulations?

Think about this  (if you can)

Without Net Neutrality, Comcast charges NetFlix extra so they can stream movies at the same speed as everyone else. Do you honestly think NetFlix is going to eat those extra charges? Net Neutrality forbids those extra charges.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

BTW, Bo D, I didn't mean for ole' Morgan to be pointing at your post, which is spot on.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Bo D on March 03, 2015, 03:14:02 PM
Think about this  (if you can)

Without Net Neutrality, Comcast charges NetFlix extra so they can stream movies at the same speed as everyone else. Do you honestly think NetFlix is going to eat those extra charges? Net Neutrality forbids those extra charges.
So you're thinking you'll get to stream movies cheaper and faster.
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Locutus

Quote from: me on March 03, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
So you're thinking you'll get to stream movies cheaper and faster.

Clueless.   :wall:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on March 03, 2015, 03:42:06 PM
Clueless.   :wall:

How true!!! Isn't it crazy how she spins things around. NOWHERE did any one EVER claim that.

All we are saying is they can't charge us more than normal for downloads at the same speed as everything else.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on March 03, 2015, 03:46:15 PM
How true!!! Isn't it crazy how she spins things around. NOWHERE did any one EVER claim that.

All we are saying is they can't charge us more than normal for downloads at the same speed as everything else.
Doesn't streaming a movie take more bandwidth than other activities?
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 03, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
Doesn't streaming a movie take more bandwidth than other activities?

Depends on the activities.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Depends on the activities.



....or the kind of porn you're streaming.    :icon_twisted:  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

So now we've established that the comcrap and others can't charge companies like Netflix for the extra bandwidth of streaming movies but what do the other regulations and rules cover? I mean you read the whole thing so spill it. 
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Bo D

The Order protects consumers no matter how they access the Internet, whether on a desktop computer or a mobile device.

Bright Line Rules: The first three rules ban practices that are known to harm the Open Internet:

• No Blocking: broadband providers may not block access to legal content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices.

• No Throttling: broadband providers may not impair or degrade lawful Internet traffic on the basis of content, applications, services, or non-harmful devices.

• No Paid Prioritization: broadband providers may not favor some lawful Internet traffic over other lawful traffic in exchange for consideration of any kind—in other words, no "fast lanes."  This rule also bans ISPs from prioritizing content and services of their affiliates.

The bright-line rules against blocking and throttling will prohibit harmful practices that target specific applications or classes of applications. And the ban on paid prioritization ensures that there will be no fast lanes.

A Standard for Future Conduct: Because the Internet is always growing and changing, there must be a known standard by which to address any concerns that arise with new practices. The Order establishes that ISPs cannot "unreasonably interfere with or unreasonably disadvantage" the ability of consumers to  select, access, and use the lawful content, applications, services, or devices of their choosing; or of edge providers to make lawful content, applications, services, or devices available to consumers. Today's Order ensures that the Commission will have authority to address questionable practices on a case-by-case basis, and provides guidance in the form of factors on how the Commission will apply the standard in practice.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-strong-sustainable-rules-protect-open-internet
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

^^  ....which is exactly the concept described in the pictures and big words on the very first post to this topic. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson