Net Neutrality

[Locutus]

It was back when there was only dial-up this particular service was not charging yet and the commercial was set in a court room and the big thing was "net neutrality, the network should be free for everyone".

That isn't even remotely close to what net neutrality is all about.   

It's scary some of the absolute shit that I've seen my friends regurgitate on FaceBook since this FCC action.  Most of the people opining against net neutrality don't have a fucking clue what it's all about.  That certainly doesn't stop them from blowing off publicly about it. 

[Locutus]

Here's an example right here.

The number one reason that every American should consider net neutrality a grave threat is that the Muslim Brotherhood Congressman Hakim Muhammad (Keith Ellison) is dancing after hearing that the FCC voted to approve strong net neutrality rules.

7 Reasons Net Neutrality Is a Threat to Your Freedom
By Nick Sanchez Friday, 27 Feb 2015


The FCC's Democrat majority voted on Thursday to fix something that ain't broken by approving new regulations for the Internet. Republicans are dissenting, darkly suggesting that the new rules in government hands are a threat.

    The commission's chairman, Tom Wheeler, said the new rules will ensure net neutrality by barring Internet service providers like Comcast from charging companies like Netflix for priority data transmission. Considering that ISPs don't do this, and currently treat all data transmission equally, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, accused the FCC of trying to "fix something that is far from broken."

    Here are 7 reasons why the FCC's new net neutrality rules could be a threat to your freedom.

    1. The FCC's new rules are a heavy-handed government takeover of the Internet.

    Under the new rules, broadband Internet is classified as a public utility for the first time ever. This gives the government wide control of private companies like Comcast, Verizon, and Time Warner Cable, reducing their incentives to invest in their respective networks. Without this investment, broadband technology will develop more slowly, and prices will be higher for consumers.

    2. Net neutrality subsidizes large companies like Netflix and Facebook who don't need it.

    In November, it was widely reported that Netflix alone accounts for over 35 percent of all Internet traffic in the US. If broadband providers were able to charge Netflix a small fee for the high volume of data they send, they could pass that money onto consumers in the form of lower monthly bills.

    3. The new rules subvert democracy and the will of the people.

    CBS News reported that two in three Americans are opposed to the idea of government regulating the Internet. Other polls show that opposition to net neutrality is even higher.

    4. The new regulations will stifle free speech.

    Lee E. Goodman, former chairman and a current commissioner of the Federal Election Commission, told Newsmax TV that a government takeover of the Internet will chill political speech.

    "The government will regulate the content — and specifically the political content — that the American people can both post online to express their own political opinions, and the political content and information that people can access from the Internet," said Goodman, who was appointed to the FEC in 2013 by President Obama.

    5. The rule-making process was corrupted by the White House.

    President Obama and White House staffers used backchannel meetings to pressure chairman Wheeler into creating the strongest possible net neutrality rules over the more moderate approach he originally intended. In this way, the White House operated "like a parallel version of the FCC itself," The Wall Street Journal reported.

    6. The commission's vote wasn't transparent.

    The new set of rules ushered in by Thursday's 3-2 vote were not provided to the public for comment. Ahead of the vote, one of the agency's five commissioners, Ajit Pai, tweeted a picture of the 317-page plan that he was barred from showing the public. Even after the vote, the rules will not be published publicly for many days.


    7. The new rules will hurt the right to privacy, and further empower the federal government to spy on its citizens.

    After Edward Snowden leaked the NSA's secret PRISM surveillance program in 2013, it became clear that the federal government is interested in snooping around in the private affairs of its citizens. Now that the federal government controls the web, its ability to spy will only increase.

[me]

That isn't even remotely close to what net neutrality is all about.   

It's scary some of the absolute shit that I've seen my friends regurgitate on FaceBook since this FCC action.  Most of the people opining against net neutrality don't have a fucking clue what it's all about.  That certainly doesn't stop them from blowing off publicly about it. 

I said that was where the name probably came from not that it was what it was about. I also said we will find out what it really is for sure now that it seems to have passed.

[Y]

That isn't even remotely close to what net neutrality is all about.   

It's scary some of the absolute shit that I've seen my friends regurgitate on FaceBook since this FCC action.  Most of the people opining against net neutrality don't have a fucking clue what it's all about.  That certainly doesn't stop them from blowing off publicly about it. 

Out of all the RW idjits I've seen complaining about it, there hasn't been ONE - not ONE - who had a real clue as to what they were blowing off about.  I think I've seen more sheer stupidity shown on this issue then practically any other.  It's utterly ridiculous!

[me]

Out of all the RW idjits I've seen complaining about it, there hasn't been ONE - not ONE - who had a real clue as to what they were blowing off about.  I think I've seen more sheer stupidity shown on this issue then practically any other.  It's utterly ridiculous!

Have you read the entire bill and do you know all there is to know about it?

[Exterminator]

Have you read the entire bill and do you know all there is to know about it?

There is no bill.   

[me]

There is no bill.   

Ok, let me rephrase it. Have you checked out all the regulations and rules?

[Exterminator]

Ok, let me rephrase it. Have you checked out all the regulations and rules?

Yes; it's pretty much spelled out in a document available on the FCC website.

[me]

Yes; it's pretty much spelled out in a document available on the FCC website.

All of it or part of it? There are over 100 pages.

[Bo D]

All of it or part of it? There are over 100 pages.

Maybe you can find a video on Youtube since you're so against reading. 

[me]

Maybe you can find a video on Youtube since you're so against reading. 

I'm asking if you all have read it in it's entirety or just parts of it. I've heard both good and bad and have never made a statement for or against. You all, on the other hand, seem to think it's all good and are chomping at the bit to get it going.

[Exterminator]

You all, on the other hand, seem to think it's all good and are chomping at the bit to get it going.

There is nothing to, "get going."  These rules essentially maintain what has mostly been standard practice since the inception of the internet.

[me]

There is nothing to, "get going."  These rules essentially maintain what has mostly been standard practice since the inception of the internet.

Then why do we need them again? Are you 100% positive there are no new regulations or rules in those hundreds of pages?

[Locutus]

Then why do we need them again? Are you 100% positive there are no new regulations or rules in those hundreds of pages?

Refer to the pictures on the very first page in this thread.  Particularly this part here:

[Bo D]

Refer to the pictures on the very first page in this thread.  Particularly this part here:

THe pitures are real nice, but theys some awful big words