Ferguson, MO

[The Troll]

I don't hate Y. He just doesn't understand that every county does things differently in court cases. I am betting that no two counties are alike in Indiana also.

  I think you will find that Indiana has a uniform state and county laws.  Maybe some different smoking laws. 

[Purplelady1040]

  I think you will find that Indiana has a uniform state and county laws.  Maybe some different smoking laws. 

That is good but not all states do and some laws vary even in the counties.

[me]

This pretty much says it all. 

Quote of John T. Reed:

The blacks and liberals who would not be satisfied until Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson got a lethal injection complain that a grand jury was used instead of just indicting him and going to jury trial—as with George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.
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For one thing, how did skipping the grand jury work out for you in the Martin case? If whites said potayto, those people would say potahto. They are utterly unsatisfiable and opposed to everything white because whites support it and no other reason.
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But here's another. The reason the blacks and liberals wanted a regular trial instead of a grand jury is so they could intimidate witnesses and jurors.
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Grand juries are from English law and go back to the year 1166. They have investigative powers—subpoena power—and they operate in secret in the sense that the identities of the grand jurors are not disclosed nor are the identities of the witnesses. Indeed, disclosing the testimony—with names redacted—in the Wilson case was unusual. Normally, nothing is disclosed but the whether-to-indict decision.
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Seven blacks who were eyewitnesses testified that Darren Wilson's version of events was accurate. First, I give them great credit for that. They had no incentive to do so other than their conscience. They could have easily not come forward, claimed they did not remember, or claimed to have been looking in another direction. But at least in the grand jury, they had anonymity.
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Same thing with the grand jurors themselves. They had been picked and empaneled before the shooting. Had the district attorney gone to a regular trial as in the whatever-the-loudest-mob-wants decision made by the state attorney general i the Florida Trayvon Martin case, all the identities of the witnesses and jurors would have been public and both groups would have been under tremendous pressure from blacks and liberals to get the white guy no matter the evidence. Or, if the defendant was a black guy, like OJ, find him not guilty no matter the evidence.
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I also admire the moral courage of the grand jurors in not caving to the mob. In theory, the identities of the grand jurors and grand jury witnesses are secret, but we all know how such things often get leaked by insiders trying to advance their own agenda.
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I am a big advocate of replacing our elected Congress with one that operates like a grand jury—secret members who vote on secret ballots and serve 6 month terms. They are representative of the people not because they got elected but because they were selected at random from among the American citizens of each state and Congressional district. See my web article about it. http://www.johntreed.com/phonebook.html
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I want to also commend some of the residents of Ferguson who tried to stop looters and vandals. One group blocked the entrance of a cosmetics store that was being looted. The looters went around back and set it on fire. Another black woman put out the fires in the Ferguson Food and Liquor store with a gallon of milk. That is the same convenience store that Michael Brown robbed just before he was shot.
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The good people need to either run the bad people out, which I suspect they will not, or leave the town for a better place. I suspect most will do neither in which case they deserve what they get. I expect the racism of many white haters in Ferguson will now drive that town into total bankrupt ghettohood as the good blacks and the whites engage in the legal racial discrimination of leaving, and others who might have moved into that town, will move somewhere else instead, a la Detroit and many other formerly decent American cities.
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I have been a boss in many situations—coach, platoon leader and company commander in the Army, landlord, business manager, parent. You have three kinds of people: the good, the bad, and those who will go either way according to which side wins, the good or the bad.
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The leader's job is to make sure the bad lose the fight for dominance. When they do, they will leave and the either-way group will behave. The rule is, the screws must be tightened and tightened again on the bad guys until they reform or leave. The punishment of the looters and arsonists and rock throwers need to be so harsh that they regret doing that and that those who observed then and were considering joining them are very glad they did not. The test of what is too harsh ad too lenient is simply recidivism. If the punishment did not cause the behavior to stop, it was not harsh enough. Does anyone believe that the looters, arsonists and rock throwers in Ferguson, or around the country copy cats, regret what they did or that any observers are glad they did not participate in the misbehavior?
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But if the leader lets the bad guys win, the good people will leave and the either-way people will turn bad. And no new good people will move in.
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I see ZERO evidence that the politician leaders in Ferguson, Missouri, or the U.S. have even the slightest intention of punishing the bad people in Ferguson. Looters and white-people haters are a significant part of the Democrats' base. They will not prosecute them under any circumstances.
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Obvious bad guys like Brown's accomplice Dorian Johnson and the identifiable looters and arsonists will be let off. Race hustlers including those in the MO state legislature will be reelected by the white haters (including white liberals) in their districts. The only continuing investigation is to try to get Darren Wilson on some federal civil rights charge or civil law suit.
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The bad guys won in Ferguson. They won in August and again in November. They won on Black Friday around the U.S. So any good guys who remain in Ferguson—on the police force or just as residents—are engaging in terminally stupid behavior. No good deed goes unpunished in such places. No white person or black person who "acts white" will be allowed life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness in such a place.

[Y]

Mere propaganda from the RW noize machine.

[Y]

  I think you will find that Indiana has a uniform state and county laws.  Maybe some different smoking laws. 

PL's full of it.  I don't mind.  In fact, it's good to know.  I enjoy testing out discussion opponents to discover their mettle.

[Y]

Regardless of anything the RW noize machine has to say, New York had absolutely nothing to do with Ferguson.

[The Troll]

Regardless of anything the RW noize machine has to say, New York had absolutely nothing to do with Ferguson.

  It's not only Ferguson that was a police state.  It's the whole country that has become a police state and  cops are killing too many of us, the citizens.   

[Henry Hawk]

  It's not only Ferguson that was a police state.  It's the whole country that has become a police state and  cops are killing too many of us, the citizens.   

Tell me Troll, how many have been killed by police? I think you are speaking through your ass like normal.

[Purplelady1040]

PL's full of it.  I don't mind.  In fact, it's good to know.  I enjoy testing out discussion opponents to discover their mettle.

Really, because I can tell you that in some states the laws do vary from county to county even if the state claims to have a uniform code of law. I guess because I know some counties in Kentucky don't do like some of the bigger counties that you think I am lying. It ilike I said in smaller counties the grand jury may only meet once a month or even less depending on whether they have had a huge felony crime happen.

[The Troll]

Really, because I can tell you that in some states the laws do vary from county to county even if the state claims to have a uniform code of law. I guess because I know some counties in Kentucky don't do like some of the bigger counties that you think I am lying. It ilike I said in smaller counties the grand jury may only meet once a month or even less depending on whether they have had a huge felony crime happen.

  Tell me, do they still clean out the Saloon to have court in old Kentuck.   

[Purplelady1040]

  Tell me, do they still clean out the Saloon to have court in old Kentuck.   

Ignorant one, they have courthouses or most counties have a judicial centers but smaller counties just don't have grand jury meetings every month. They often go several months before they even have grand jury meetings to see if there is enough to have a trial.
Did you cheer when the psycho killed the 2 police officer in NewYork?

[The Troll]

Tell me Troll, how many have been killed by police? I think you are speaking through your ass like normal.

  You wouldn't understand it if I told you.  You're playing so far out in right field you're standing outside of the park.   

[Henry Hawk]

You are clueless

[The Troll]

You are clueless

  The police aren't required to keep count of the number of people they kill or die while in the police  hands.  BrightBart.

  Just you watch there will be a law coming up that will take care of that problem.  They have killed hundreds in the past 40 years and it will all come out in the future, Bunky Boy.

[me]

And ya'll call the Koch Bro's bad???? 


George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action

Liberal billionaire gave at least $33 million in one year to groups that emboldened activists

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/#ixzz3Ozadv3Zj
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By Kelly Riddell - The Washington Times - Wednesday, January 14, 2015

There's a solitary man at the financial center of the Ferguson protest movement. No, it's not victim Michael Brown or Officer Darren Wilson. It's not even the Rev. Al Sharpton, despite his ubiquitous campaign on TV and the streets.

Rather, it's liberal billionaire George Soros, who has built a business empire that dominates across the ocean in Europe while forging a political machine powered by nonprofit foundations that impacts American politics and policy, not unlike what he did with MoveOn.org.

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