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Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
I'll refer you here:

http://www.louisvilleprosecutor.com/legal_system.htm

That's directly from the Commonwealth Attorney's Office - which I paraphrased...maybe you can argue with that office about how it should work since you think you know more than that office does.   :biggrin:
By the way, most counties in Kentucky  do not have a felony probable cause hearing like Louisville. They are an unusual court system there and I wouldn't know how many courts they do have but I do know they have several. Family, juvenile, drug court, district, circuit and a veteran's drug court system because veteran's were being treated very unfairly.

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:24:21 PM
One thing is certain and that is we are never going to know what happened

That's not quite true. 

We know:

1. Wilson initiated the confrontation.

2. There was no overarching reason to either initiate or pursue that confrontation.

3. Brown was unarmed...

...and so on.

We know several things - which cumulatively make it clear the position I've taken.
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:34:23 PM
That's not quite true. 

We know:

1. Wilson initiated the confrontation.

2. There was no overarching reason to either initiate or pursue that confrontation.

3. Brown was unarmed...

...and so on.

We know several things - which cumulatively make it clear the position I've taken.
I meant about the Grand Jury hearings

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:29:38 PM
Sorry. You think that but  wondering if it had been a black officer who did this to Brown would you think the same way? If been a white kid by a white officer, would you think the same thing?

You truly are fixated on race to the exclusion of even reading what I'd written.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
You truly are fixated on race to the exclusion of even reading what I'd written.
Nope, you are twisting it that way. You are not answering the questions I have asked on what if it had been an officer of another color doing it to their own color or a white officer doing it to a white kid? Would that had been any different to what happened?

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
That is how it works in Louisville, even though Kentucky has a uniform statute of law, every county is different in the way it does things. I know you won't believe me but what happens in Louisville is totally different than what happens in say Bowling Green. They all follow the law but just do it different in each county. I am betting it is the same in every state.

I'll tell you what.  The easiest way to settle it is to post links from those prosecuting attorneys/courts proving what you claim.

I've done so...and so far, you're wrong.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:49:17 PM
Nope, you are twisting it that way. You are not answering the questions I have asked on what if it had been an officer of another color doing it to their own color or a white officer doing it to a white kid? Would that had been any different to what happened?

LOL!  Now you just proved exactly what I stated: You truly are fixated on race to the exclusion of even reading what I'd written.

Now go back and bother to read what I've written.  I've answered that point more than once.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
I'll tell you what.  The easiest way to settle it is to post links from those prosecuting attorneys/courts proving what you claim.

I've done so...and so far, you're wrong.
I am not going to post links when most courts in Kentucky don't even have links. Geez, there are 121 counties in Ky and believe me , most of the do not do it the way Louisville does it. I hate to tell you but no two counties in Ky do the law the exact same way. It is like I said it is probably that way in most states. The county I live in does not do the felony probable cause hearing. They never have. The charges start at District, waive to Circuit and a Grand Jury meets to see if there is enough evidence to have a trial at the Circuit Court level. The on!y thing proved is the way Louisville does it.

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:53:14 PM
LOL!  Now you just proved exactly what I stated: You truly are fixated on race to the exclusion of even reading what I'd written.

Now go back and bother to read what I've written.  I've answered that point more than once.
No you haven't answered it at all. You are the one twisting it all about race

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
I'll tell you what.  The easiest way to settle it is to post links from those prosecuting attorneys/courts proving what you claim.

I've done so...and so far, you're wrong.
By the way, smaller counties are made up of two- three sometimes four counties. They do well to even have internet much less links to a court system. Lol, some of them only meet in Circuit Court maybe once every 6 months and that has yo be a major crime.

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:55:34 PM
I am not going to post links when most courts in Kentucky don't even have links. Geez, there are 121 counties in Ky and believe me , most of the do not do it the way Louisville does it. I hate to tell you but no two counties in Ky do the law the exact same way. It is like I said it is probably that way in most states. The county I live in does not do the felony probable cause hearing. They never have. The charges start at District, waive to Circuit and a Grand Jury meets to see if there is enough evidence to have a trial at the Circuit Court level. The on!y thing proved is the way Louisville does it.

So what you're really saying is that you can't prove anything you claim. 

Don't worry, I won't cry, I never thought you could. 
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:57:39 PM
No you haven't answered it at all. You are the one twisting it all about race

LOL!  That's twice!   :wink:

Or you could go back and read and stop making a fool of yourself.

That snickering in the background will be others laughing at you...but don't say I didn't warn you.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 10:01:56 PM
So what you're really saying is that you can't prove anything you claim. 

Don't worry, I won't cry, I never thought you could.
I can't when most counties don't have links. It is like I said Louisville is a unique court system. I told you how it is done here and it is not done like Louisville. I can venture that Louisville isn't done like Lexington's, Owensboro or Todd County. Each county is different.

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on November 30, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
LOL!  That's twice!   :wink:

Or you could go back and read and stop making a fool of yourself.

That snickering in the background will be others laughing at you...but don't say I didn't warn you.
Whatever, you are the one who hasn't answered the question had this been an officer of the same race, would you feel the same way?

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 30, 2014, 09:59:48 PM
By the way, smaller counties are made up of two- three sometimes four counties.

Did you really mean to say that?
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa