Ferguson, MO

[Y]

Ferguson, Missouri looks a lot like the Gaza Strip right now.....UNBELIEVABLE! 

  Will you people believe me now?  I have said for years that the militarization of our police departments were becoming a real bad problem.     Just look at Ferguson Mo. and it has to stop and stop now. 

  These cops are not peace officers, these cops are military SWAT killers.   

Perhaps if the people were not LOOTING and DESTROYING personal property the cops would not have to act in a military way.  They have no choice now but to be extremely forceful.

[Y]

1. Yes, Ferguson does give the impression of places like the Gaza Strip, just like Detroit, Watts, etc. back in the 60's but back then it was the military - the National Guard - not the police force playing at being the military.

2. The militarization of our local police forces is a dire national problem that has needed addressed for years.  Unfortunately, even though it's now being talked about , law enforcement may have gone too far down that road for the citizenry to rectify.  I hope not.

3. Yeah, all them damn negroes are just jungle animals, ain't they.     Do you ever stop to think about why you paint issues like this the way you do, Hank?  Do you wonder why people tell you that you're racist, or do you just blow it off and claim it's 'politics' instead of examining how you react and deal with issues that involve race?

Anyway, there are always going to be people out there who will take advantage of situations of social unrest to commit crimes - especially with the underlying economic stratification of this country.  You can't tie those crimes or those criminals to the social unrest or those participating in demonstrations protesting social ills.  Doing so is only propaganda, and in this instance racial propaganda - but it's nothing I haven't seen or lived through in my lifetime.

I would have hoped we as a nation - and as 'white' people - would have moved beyond that.

[Henry Hawk]

Race has NOTHING to do with stealing and destroying personal property. It is wrong no matter what color anybody is.  What the people in Ferguson is doing is wrong. PERIOD.  No excuses what-so-ever.

What have I said that was racist?

I will answer that for you.  NOTHING.  Wrong is wrong, no matter how you slice it.

[me]

Uh, it was you who mentioned the race Y HH just said there was looting and rioting going on and didn't mention a race so you are the one who automatically assumed he was talking about blacks. 

[The Troll]

Uh, it was you who mentioned the race Y HH just said there was looting and rioting going on and didn't mention a race so you are the one who automatically assumed he was talking about blacks.

  When you talk about Ferguson Mo. with 70% black African Americans and a police force of 99% white, judges all white and persecutors all white.  Clara Bell it's all about blacks and race.   

[me]

  When you talk about Ferguson Mo. with 70% black African Americans and a police force of 99% white, judges all white and persecutors all white.  Clara Bell it's all about blacks and race. 

And if they're rioting and looting they're wrong and it isn't racist to say they're rioting and looting and being racist has nothing to do with the statement because it's true.  To ignore and excuse wrong doing just because of a persons color or race is just wrong and enabling.

[Palehorse]

And if they're rioting and looting they're wrong and it isn't racist to say they're rioting and looting and being racist has nothing to do with the statement because it's true.  To ignore and excuse wrong doing just because of a persons color or race is just wrong and enabling.

Racism has EVERYTHING to do with it. You just don't see it.

They, based upon what I have seen surrounding forensics, executed an unarmed individual that was guilty of shoplifting at best.

EXECUTED this young man. EXECUTED.

Six shots, 4 of which would have immobilized him. But they didn't stop there, they administered the coup de gras by shooting him twice more; in the head. (According to Michael Baden, one of the foremost forensic pathologists in this country).

All while the young man was trying to surrender.

Very reminiscent of the 60's civil rights movement, and as these people exercise their constitutional right to peacefully protest, they are persecuted by the authorities further, which leads to the debacle and riots we now see there.

Apparently many in this country have not learned the lessons necessary to stop the racism and persecution of individuals based upon the color of their skin or ancestry. So we will be forced to endure acts of civil unrest and yes, anarchy yet again.

This is local policing gone wrong, and at some level at least it is in part due to the militarization of law enforcement. (As Troll alludes to and I myself have mentioned on several occasions here as well).

Quelling this situation should be foremost upon law enforcement and governments agendas, and I am sure it is. Just not in the way both parties need it to be addressed; with the second party being the victim(s) in this situation; the citizens of the involved area.

Secondly, the rest of this country had best sit up and take notice, for every single city in this nation is but one bone-headed police action from being front and center on the front line of a similar situation itself. And THERE is the danger.

I and others on here have been warning of the impending civil war this country is at risk of. 

If this young man had been white and living in your city, how would you feel about it?

If that incident had been the latest in a long string of jack=booted persecution of young white males, how would you feel about it?

Wouldn't you take to the streets to peacefully protest the execution of an unarmed young, male white?

What would you do if that action resulted in tear gassing, arrests, and beatings of the peaceful protestors?

Civil unrest is the last desperate act that comes before civil war.

[The Troll]

Racism has EVERYTHING to do with it. You just don't see it.

They, based upon what I have seen surrounding forensics, executed an unarmed individual that was guilty of shoplifting at best.

EXECUTED this young man. EXECUTED.

Six shots, 4 of which would have immobilized him. But they didn't stop there, they administered the coup de gras by shooting him twice more; in the head. (According to Michael Baden, one of the foremost forensic pathologists in this country).

All while the young man was trying to surrender.

Very reminiscent of the 60's civil rights movement, and as these people exercise their constitutional right to peacefully protest, they are persecuted by the authorities further, which leads to the debacle and riots we now see there.

Apparently many in this country have not learned the lessons necessary to stop the racism and persecution of individuals based upon the color of their skin or ancestry. So we will be forced to endure acts of civil unrest and yes, anarchy yet again.

This is local policing gone wrong, and at some level at least it is in part due to the militarization of law enforcement. (As Troll alludes to and I myself have mentioned on several occasions here as well).

Quelling this situation should be foremost upon law enforcement and governments agendas, and I am sure it is. Just not in the way both parties need it to be addressed; with the second party being the victim(s) in this situation; the citizens of the involved area.

Secondly, the rest of this country had best sit up and take notice, for every single city in this nation is but one bone-headed police action from being front and center on the front line of a similar situation itself. And THERE is the danger.

I and others on here have been warning of the impending civil war this country is at risk of. 

If this young man had been white and living in your city, how would you feel about it?

If that incident had been the latest in a long string of jack=booted persecution of young white males, how would you feel about it?

Wouldn't you take to the streets to peacefully protest the execution of an unarmed young, male white?

What would you do if that action resulted in tear gassing, arrests, and beatings of the peaceful protestors?

Civil unrest is the last desperate act that comes before civil war.

  Brainless Republicans Conservatives just don't get it.          

[me]

Racism has EVERYTHING to do with it. You just don't see it.

They, based upon what I have seen surrounding forensics, executed an unarmed individual that was guilty of shoplifting at best.

EXECUTED this young man. EXECUTED.

Six shots, 4 of which would have immobilized him. But they didn't stop there, they administered the coup de gras by shooting him twice more; in the head. (According to Michael Baden, one of the foremost forensic pathologists in this country).

All while the young man was trying to surrender.

Very reminiscent of the 60's civil rights movement, and as these people exercise their constitutional right to peacefully protest, they are persecuted by the authorities further, which leads to the debacle and riots we now see there.

Apparently many in this country have not learned the lessons necessary to stop the racism and persecution of individuals based upon the color of their skin or ancestry. So we will be forced to endure acts of civil unrest and yes, anarchy yet again.

This is local policing gone wrong, and at some level at least it is in part due to the militarization of law enforcement. (As Troll alludes to and I myself have mentioned on several occasions here as well).

Quelling this situation should be foremost upon law enforcement and governments agendas, and I am sure it is. Just not in the way both parties need it to be addressed; with the second party being the victim(s) in this situation; the citizens of the involved area.

Secondly, the rest of this country had best sit up and take notice, for every single city in this nation is but one bone-headed police action from being front and center on the front line of a similar situation itself. And THERE is the danger.

I and others on here have been warning of the impending civil war this country is at risk of. 

If this young man had been white and living in your city, how would you feel about it?

If that incident had been the latest in a long string of jack=booted persecution of young white males, how would you feel about it?

Wouldn't you take to the streets to peacefully protest the execution of an unarmed young, male white?

What would you do if that action resulted in tear gassing, arrests, and beatings of the peaceful protestors?

Civil unrest is the last desperate act that comes before civil war.

And that gives them a right to loot and riot and harm people who had nothing to do with what happened?  Give me a break.  You are making a judgement on something without having been there or knowing what actually happened too you realize. 

[Henry Hawk]

The only FACTS we have are:

1) A man is dead.
2) He was shot and killed by a police officer.
3) Some citizens are protesting peacefully and some are looting and rioting.
4) Some police officers that are TRYING to keep peace are having bricks and molotov cocktails thrown at them.

This is a bad situation.




Here is a report that is not being blasted on the air waves.  I don't know if this is true or false yet, but if it is, it is a game changer.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html


If this young man had been white in a white neighborhood, I still don't think we would have seen looting and rioting.  Does that make me a racist for saying the truth?


If cops put on helmets and riot gear does that mean they are militarized or just tying to keep themselves safe?

It is my opinion, that the trouble makers who are shooting at the police, throwing bricks and cocktails are by far a small group in comparison to those who are protesting peacefully.

Those who are acting this way STILL needs to be dealt with...until the people and business' are safe.

[The Troll]

The only FACTS we have are:

1) A man is dead.
2) He was shot and killed by a police officer.
3) Some citizens are protesting peacefully and some are looting and rioting.
4) Some police officers that are TRYING to keep peace are having bricks and molotov cocktails thrown at them.

This is a bad situation.




Here is a report that is not being blasted on the air waves.  I don't know if this is true or false yet, but if it is, it is a game changer.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html


If this young man had been white in a white neighborhood, I still don't think we would have seen looting and rioting.  Does that make me a racist for saying the truth?


If cops put on helmets and riot gear does that mean they are militarized or just tying to keep themselves safe?

It is my opinion, that the trouble makers who are shooting at the police, throwing bricks and cocktails are by far a small group in comparison to those who are protesting peacefully.

Those who are acting this way STILL needs to be dealt with...until the people and business' are safe.

  Just were did these cops get their dress, clothes, tanks, guns, armored armored truck and Humvee?  Well Hawk, they got them from the United States Army some directly from Iraq.    But of course you didn't know that.   

  Also a lot of these trouble makers are from out of town stirring up trouble.   

[Henry Hawk]

  Just were did these cops get their dress, clothes, tanks, guns, armored armored truck and Humvee?  Well Hawk, they got them from the United States Army some directly from Iraq.    But of course you didn't know that. 

  Also a lot of these trouble makers are from out of town stirring up trouble. 

Yes I did know that and what difference does it make WHERE they got them?  That is the dumbest thing I have heard.  They wear them to protect themselves from bricks and cocktails.  They have a job to do and have been forced to do it in this nature.  Why does it bother you if they got hand me downs from the Army?  Seems to me like they are saving money by utilizing this equipment in situations like this.

Troll did you watch the video I attached?

[Exterminator]

All while the young man was trying to surrender.

No, he wasn't.

[me]

No, he wasn't.

You mean you were there and know that for a fact or are you using that creative thinking again?

[The Troll]

You mean you were there and know that for a fact or are you using that creative thinking again?

  Well we all know that you don't use creative thinking and never have. Clara Bell.