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Bo D

#15
August 07, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
You said..."it was the conservatives who hated Jews".  Not a few of the conservatives.  "the conservatives" is what you said.  My statements is also based upon personal experiences from liberals....and growing up in a Conservative Church in the midwest.

I am honestly not trying to be critical, just wondering, WHY, it appears, that many liberals are against Israel? Or maybe a better way to put it, NOT in favor of supporting Israel during this crisis.

Damn it, Hank! I said "where I grew up, it was the conservatives ..."

And then you tried to claim I said "widespread"  Can't you see that????


I'm reminded of something that almost every adult I knew as a child professed ...

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

14For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews, 15who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, 16hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#16
August 07, 2014, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 07, 2014, 01:16:03 PM
Damn it, Hank! I said "where I grew up, it was the conservatives ..."

And then you tried to claim I said "widespread"  Can't you see that????


I'm reminded of something that almost every adult I knew as a child professed ...

1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

14For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews, 15who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, 16hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost.

First of all, sorry I caused you to "damn it me"....

Secondly, I think that verse if just Paul talking to the Thessalonians, trying to encourage them during a harsh time.  Not so much to Christians today.

BUT, again, just my opinion.....I am not close to being any kind of "Bible dude"...preachin.

It is just my view, that if you hate, you are not being Christian.  Something the vast majority of "Christians" struggle with.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#17
August 07, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
I love how easily those who claim to believe in the bible twist its words.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

#18
August 07, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 07, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
I love how easily those who claim to believe in the bible twist its words.
That is one reason I don't go around spouting Bible verses. Each person has their own interpretation of the Bible so it is better to leave it to what they do or do not believe.

Henry Hawk

#19
August 07, 2014, 02:05:19 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 07, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
I love how easily those who claim to believe in the bible twist its words.

I'm not twisting nothing ex....I am just telling Bo what my view of that passage is.

Quit being an ass.  Either be a productive part of the discussion or butt out.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#20
August 07, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
How does one be a productive part of a misinformation campaign?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#21
August 07, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 07, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
How does one be a productive part of a misinformation campaign?

How are you being misinformed?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#22
August 07, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 07, 2014, 11:16:18 AM
Where I grew up, it was the conservatives who hated Jews because of "what they did to Jesus." I think you'll still find that attitude in rural churches, especially Baptist.

It isn't just rural Baptist Churches either.

My dear departed mother brought me and my siblings up in Chicago and we attended a Southern Baptist church there. Even at my young tender age back then, the intense dislike for those of the Jewish Faith was clearly apparent.  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#23
August 07, 2014, 05:26:24 PM
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

#24
August 07, 2014, 08:25:04 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on August 07, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
It isn't just rural Baptist Churches either.

My dear departed mother brought me and my siblings up in Chicago and we attended a Southern Baptist church there. Even at my young tender age back then, the intense dislike for those of the Jewish Faith was clearly apparent.  :yes:
It wasn't just Jews that were disliked when I was growing up. It was Jews and Catholics and I grew up in a Cumberland Presbyterian church.

Bo D

#25
August 08, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
Everybody hates everybody else.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

#26
August 08, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 08, 2014, 11:43:14 AM
Everybody hates everybody else.

....and my god is better than your god and he will fight and smite you!
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#27
August 08, 2014, 12:24:47 PM
I say we give them all a C4 enema and a detonator chaser, and be done with them.  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#28
August 08, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
bump........just in case nobody actually took the time to watch this video that explains it all very, very well.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
I think this video explains a lot about the problems in the Middle East.

http://youtu.be/8EDW88CBo-8

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#29
August 08, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 08, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
bump........just in case nobody actually took the time to watch this video that explains it all very, very well.

I posted that video to my FB page weeks ago.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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