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Started by Henry Hawk, August 07, 2014, 09:40:37 AM

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Henry Hawk

I think this video explains a lot about the problems in the Middle East.

http://youtu.be/8EDW88CBo-8
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

I'm curious. Why are right wing Christians so adamant in their support for Israel when that country supports a religion that denies the validity of Christianity?   :confused:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 07, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
I'm curious. Why are right wing Christians so adamant in their support for Israel when that country supports a religion that denies the validity of Christianity?   :confused:

Why do you assume you have to be a right wing Christian to support common sense?  Why is it that liberals have this desire to HATE Jews?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:30 AM
Why is it that liberals have this desire to HATE Jews?

Uh, my whole family is Hebrew, stupid.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Anne

Anyone read the article in the paper today about growing antisemitism in Europe? I am constantly amazed at how evil people can be.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on August 07, 2014, 10:11:52 AM
Uh, my whole family is Hebrew, stupid.   :rolleyes:

You still didn't answer my question........by and far, liberals (as a majority) seem to have a dislike for Israel.  Why is that?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Anne on August 07, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
Anyone read the article in the paper today about growing antisemitism in Europe? I am constantly amazed at how evil people can be.

My observation is that it is not something the "mainstream media" seems to want to cover....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 10:30:20 AM
You still didn't answer my question........by and far, liberals (as a majority) seem to have a dislike for Israel.  Why is that?

I don't believe that to be true.  How about you prove your assertion?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
My observation is that it is not something the "mainstream media" seems to want to cover....

Then how did it get into the paper?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:30 AM
Why do you assume you have to be a right wing Christian to support common sense?  Why is it that liberals have this desire to HATE Jews?

Where I grew up, it was the conservatives who hated Jews because of "what they did to Jesus." I think you'll still find that attitude in rural churches, especially Baptist.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Bo D on August 07, 2014, 11:16:18 AM
Where I grew up, it was the conservatives who hated Jews because of "what they did to Jesus." I think you'll still find that attitude in rural churches, especially Baptist.
I agree Bo D and especially in the Deep South. I think and this is just my feelings on the whole Middle East subject is that they all have been fighting over a section of land that was promised to them in Biblical times. I would suggest they get over it but that isn't going to happen.

Bo D

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 07, 2014, 11:30:33 AM
I agree Bo D and especially in the Deep South. I think and this is just my feelings on the whole Middle East subject is that they all have been fighting over a section of land that was promised to them in Biblical times. I would suggest they get over it but that isn't going to happen.

Yes!

I wonder if Henry really meant what he said.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Yes,  I meant what I said.

I will back up.  I have fallen into the mistake of using generalities.  From my point of view, As a Christian it seems impossible to NOT love the Jewish people.  Jesus was a Jew.  Though we have differing views of who Christ is, we are still brothers among God.  Our Bible tells us to pray for peace in Jerusalem.

As a Human Being and an American, why would I not support a peaceful loving Nation such as Israel?

I am sure there are SOME Christian churches that hate Jews....though I would bet there are not too many of them.  Bo, do you have proof that this is widespread in the south or with Baptist?

My opinion is that if a conservative hates jews, he/she is not a practicing Christian.....




Pew reports that 73 percent of Republicans are sympathetic to Israel in the ongoing conflict, but just 44 percent of Democrats.




"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 07, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
Yes,  I meant what I said.

I will back up.  I have fallen into the mistake of using generalities.  From my point of view, As a Christian it seems impossible to NOT love the Jewish people.  Jesus was a Jew.  Though we have differing views of who Christ is, we are still brothers among God.  Our Bible tells us to pray for peace in Jerusalem.

As a Human Being and an American, why would I not support a peaceful loving Nation such as Israel?

I am sure there are SOME Christian churches that hate Jews....though I would bet there are not too many of them.  Bo, do you have proof that this is widespread in the south or with Baptist?

My opinion is that if a conservative hates jews, he/she is not a practicing Christian.....




Pew reports that 73 percent of Republicans are sympathetic to Israel in the ongoing conflict, but just 44 percent of Democrats.


Where did I say widespread? I'll bet you read the news like you read posts here. That would explain a lot.

My statement was from personal experience growing up in a rural Baptist church.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 07, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
Where did I say widespread? I'll bet you read the news like you read posts here. That would explain a lot.

My statement was from personal experience growing up in a rural Baptist church.

You said..."it was the conservatives who hated Jews".  Not a few of the conservatives.  "the conservatives" is what you said.  My statements is also based upon personal experiences from liberals....and growing up in a Conservative Church in the midwest.

I am honestly not trying to be critical, just wondering, WHY, it appears, that many liberals are against Israel? Or maybe a better way to put it, NOT in favor of supporting Israel during this crisis.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW