Anarchy: Civilization of the Future

[Palehorse]

If you live in Central Indiana you cannot help but be aware of the rising levels of violent crimes being committed; not just within Indianapolis, but within the entirety of the region. Like major metropolis areas across the country, the scourge of violence has invaded this area, and shows no mercy.

If you are among the victims, or their families, you likely have been wringing your hands over the randomness of it all, and are living the frustration at the inability of law enforcement to quell the surge. Indeed, not only have they been stymied by the ingenuity of these perpetrators, but increasingly, law enforcement have become the victims themselves.

Within the last month alone, three law enforcement officers in Indiana have been killed in the line of duty, victims of the violence that communities around this nation seem powerless to stop.

Many of us have modified our routines, foregoing family outings with destinations that hold large crowds, making an effort to go into retail stores with a detailed list of what you need and the goal of getting in and out in as little time as possible. You no longer go to an ATM alone or in hours of darkness. And if you encounter an armed individual in a retail store while inside, you stop what you are doing, leave your selections where they are, and make for the door forthwith.

We've all felt the stress and anxiety levels in our lives increase, and we've all been asking the questions; What the hell is going on with people? Why can't law enforcement do anything to stop these morons? Some of us even going so far as to ask those very same questions within social media and other very public venues; and at times in ways that clearly indicate our increasing fear levels and frustrations.

Indianapolis lost a veteran police officer within the last week, when he answered a call about shots fired, and encountered an individual armed and with an obvious intention to kill. A tragedy on so many levels that it boggles the mind. His wife and children left fatherless, his co-workers left to deal with the stark reality of the price any one of them could be asked to pay at any given moment. . . And then there is the perpetrators family who also finds itself holding vigil over the critical condition of their family member, and having to deal with a public that is more inclined to punish them for what they had no hand in, as a means of obtaining some kind of vengeance or payback for the crime.

On the victims side the situation is increasingly becoming precarious, with law enforcement leadership publicly expressing their opinion(s) that "that people of Indiana should be mad as hell". As if we have not already been mad as hell?

Such public pontifications by individuals in positions of authority are shameful. Sure I understand how they feel. In fact across this country there are literally millions of families that know all too well how they feel, because they've been victimized themselves. Family members beaten, stabbed, hit in the face with hammers, shot, beheaded; the slaughter and methods used are a macabre mixture of Stephen King novels all rolled into an endless stream of murder, mayhem, and terror.

The whole time, these victims have been imploring authorities to do something about it, and their government representatives at the local, state and federal levels have done nothing but punish those who are law abiding anyway. The results are in folks, and punishing those who abide the laws of this land is not the answer. It never was, and this whole time as we've been force fed the propaganda that told us it would, our law enforcement agencies, and governmental officials have been filling their coffers by digging deeper into the pockets of those who do nothing more than live their lives as law abiding citizens.

We've dealt with over 6 years of a lame duck congress that has done nothing short of conduct dog and pony shows and say no; it's lethargy worn very publicly as some kind of badge of honor. And the whole time the slaughter has continued, all but unabated. And now it has begin to creep into the lives of those who serve and protect, and we are supposed to find some new level of rage to vent over it?

The reality is, we've let our government start running our lives, bastardizing our rights, and sat by bleating on the sidelines as they found new and creative ways to dig deeper into our pockets while allowing soulless/ faceless corporations to run rampant over our working lives, while obtaining constitutionally protected rights reserved for REAL people with REAL lives. And the whole time they've been sitting in their offices without fear of repercussion from the sheep.

Law enforcement agencies have not been immune from the efforts of these miscreants either. Their ranks are increasingly filled by those who are marginally capable of being in possession of empathy or sympathy for the plights and tribulations of the taxpaying public; and the court systems hand down decisions that enable them while the government, when it actually does something besides exercise it lethargy, passes legislation that does the very same.

This is NOT intended to be an indictment of law enforcement nor those who hold positions within it, but rather an indictment of those who have sat idly by and watched all of this grow without ay complaint what so ever.

Passing laws that further restrict the rights of individual citizens that are law abiding is not the answer to this issue, although I strongly fear those in a position to change that will not pay that fact any more attention than inadvertently stepping on an ant while walking across their back yard.

Laws that severely punish those who perpetrate such crimes is a start, including an automatic life-time sentence for those who kill human beings with depraved indifference.

(I'd say the death penalty would be more appropriate, except to do so would automatically doom thousands of innocent individuals that have been wrongly convicted of crimes to that fate. Our judicial system is rift with errors and members that are as crooked as the switch-back roads in Rocky Mountain National Park, and one wrongly executed human being is unacceptable to me).

Another stark fact buried within this situation, is that this nation is on the path toward Anarchy, and a civilization based upon it. Civil War would be the final step on that path, and assure its arrival; and we are hell-bent for leather on track toward that one as well.

When law enforcement finds itself powerless to quell the scourge of violence in this nation, and the courts unable to administer anything close to resembling justice, Anarchy will rule the day; and this nation.

I sincerely hope you live in a community that has not disarmed you at this point.

[Henry Hawk]

Extremely well said. 

[Exterminator]

And then there is the perpetrators family who also finds itself holding vigil over the critical condition of their family member, and having to deal with a public that is more inclined to punish them for what they had no hand in, as a means of obtaining some kind of vengeance or payback for the crime.

I agree with most of what you've said but take issue with this statement for a number or reasons.  As is illustrated by their statements to the media, the shooter was nothing if not a reflection and/or result of his family's lack of values.  Rather than accept responsibility for their abject failure as parents and as a community and apologizing to the family, those around him have steadfastly blamed the victim for the actions of this miscreant and continue to do so with multiple Facebook pages supporting him.  Now we learn that the weapon used in this crime was purchased by the mother, almost certainly a straw purchase made on behalf of the convicted felon who could not make the purchase himself.  I would submit that the family and friends are absolutely culpable.

Just so we're clear on whom we're talking about (the shooter is on the right)...

[The Troll]

I agree with most of what you've said but take issue with this statement for a number or reasons.  As is illustrated by their statements to the media, the shooter was nothing if not a reflection and/or result of his family's lack of values.  Rather than accept responsibility for their abject failure as parents and as a community and apologizing to the family, those around him have steadfastly blamed the victim for the actions of this miscreant and continue to do so with multiple Facebook pages supporting him.  Now we learn that the weapon used in this crime was purchased by the mother, almost certainly a straw purchase made on behalf of the convicted felon who could not make the purchase himself.  I would submit that the family and friends are absolutely culpable.

Just so we're clear on whom we're talking about (the shooter is on the right)...

  Sure is a good case for abortion and birth control.     But blacks don't get abortions or practice birth control.  They don't get any government money for birth control, but they sure do for dropping off kid after kid after kid.     After two kids on welfare from any race, tubes are tied.       Any male unmarried and two kid and are not paying full support.   Vasectomy or castration.     I wonder what that would do to the birth rate.   

[Palehorse]

I agree with most of what you've said but take issue with this statement for a number or reasons.  As is illustrated by their statements to the media, the shooter was nothing if not a reflection and/or result of his family's lack of values.  Rather than accept responsibility for their abject failure as parents and as a community and apologizing to the family, those around him have steadfastly blamed the victim for the actions of this miscreant and continue to do so with multiple Facebook pages supporting him.  Now we learn that the weapon used in this crime was purchased by the mother, almost certainly a straw purchase made on behalf of the convicted felon who could not make the purchase himself.  I would submit that the family and friends are absolutely culpable.

Just so we're clear on whom we're talking about (the shooter is on the right)...

I understand your points here, some of them obviously taken at face value. I by no means meant to imply that the perpetrator in this case was at any level innocent of wrong doing; in the case in point nor in prior incidents. Many of his family may also have had prior issues of their own that brought them to the attention of the justice system, but they are irrelevant to the case in point.

The perp was an adult male that made his own choices, and I do not fault his family for their position and statements made to the media; emotions rule the majority of individuals in life, and I am sure they play a major role in what they had to say, and how they view the incident. I tend to listen to them and do my best to allow a grieving family the latitude it needs to grieve.

Surrounding their role in this mans upbringing, it is what it is; and while they certainly made mistakes as you point out, no one took away this mans right to make a choice to travel another path than that of his father or other family members. He made that choice and now he must deal with its consequences.  But I certainly am not going to use it as a means to punish the rest of the family over what their son/brother/grandson/nephew chose to do. That is on him, just as his fathers choices were.

As to whether his mother played a role in obtaining the weapon used with intention to supply it to him, we can make that assumption but it has not yet been proven. It may very well be the case, but we do not know that yet. And I'm not willing to make that kind of assumption in any public way. Especially considering the reactionary nature of the general public today, and its violent inclinations.

We can all make better choices in hindsight, but the choices we make moving forward are the ones that matter most. Hopefully this incident will result in lessons learned and better choices for the rest of the perpetrators family; and more importantly, better choices for the public, neighbors, and friends that will encounter this family in the future.  That was the point I was trying to imply in the portion of my statement that you quoted.

A Mothers love, and some other family relationships, are based upon unconditional love. We need to allow them the latitude to grieve over what is going to all but assuredly result in the physical separation of that family from their loved one for a very long time. Perhaps even for eternity. Yes, his actions dictated that result, but it doesn't lessen the impact upon those who had no party to those actions.

I view the family members statements as defensive, and more likely the summary result of a lifetime of negative experiences and interactions with the police, and reactionary. I am sure they fear the repercussions they will be subjected to at the hands of a just as reactionary general public. For all we know they may very well fear this man will go free, and if they spoke any words other than support publicly, he could come back for them as well.

I do appreciate your holding me accountable for the words I speak and the views I hold though. Seriously, I do. 

[Palehorse]

  Sure is a good case for abortion and birth control.     But blacks don't get abortions or practice birth control.  They don't get any government money for birth control, but they sure do for dropping off kid after kid after kid.     After two kids on welfare from any race, tubes are tied.       Any male unmarried and two kid and are not paying full support.   Vasectomy or castration.     I wonder what that would do to the birth rate.   

I hardly know where to begin with this post. Racial profiling, stereotyping, and this followed by an endorsement of socialistic, genetic engineering.

Who are you really trying to run over with that bus of racism, and just how is it any different than the extremist conservative brand being bandied about?