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Started by me, May 18, 2014, 11:20:51 PM

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Exterminator

Truth!

"In other words, these right-wingers are people who have descended beneath the gutter into the viscous sewer of inhumanity, people who have surrendered any right to claim a role in civilized society.

This appears to stem from a pathological need, on the part of some conservatives, to ridicule or oppose everything that might, even tangentially, be connected to Barack Obama."


And to answer the question:

"Has it worked before? Sure—social media such as tweets and blog posts have been found by researchers to have been significant in shaping the Arab Spring. Unifying world opinion can play a big role in moving governments into action or corrupt leaders into flight."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

"I don't know, maybe [me] is just tired from waving [her] buggy whip around and struggling with [her] thousands of computer punch cards, but [her] words are so 20th century. Let me tell you, [me], about this "real world" you claim to understand with your self-induced, Pecksniffian air of superiority: you actually know nothing about it. I can accept that you've apparently done no research on the impact of social media. I can accept that you are unaware of the number of times governments have responded to international campaigns on Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Hell, I can even accept your arrogance born of ignorance that's reflected in your sneering, self-righteous blathering—after all, knowing stuff is hard, while "just saying things" is easy, and you've got lots of time to fill [watching] television so know-nothingness probably goes with the territory.

But here's what I don't accept—the unconscionable magnitude of your obliviousness. I mean, do you honestly believe that Michelle Obama is going to hear your words and say, "Uh-oh. [Me] is very cross at me. I better change my behavior." See how stupid that sounds, [me]? Because, as you and I both know, you are an inconsequence whose words flutter around the White House with the same import as the final flappings of a crushed moth. No, you weren't speaking to the First Lady, but to the vast legions of Fox News watchers whose world view has been transformed into fantasy by the half-truths and outright deceptions spewed by folks like you.

No one expects a twitter campaign to have an effect on the terrorists – did you actually think they were the intended audience of the campaign before you vomited up those words? As even the most basic millisecond of research would have told you, the intent is to pressure governments. And that has worked. So, instead of joining in an effort to save little girls, you do everything you can (and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply uninformed rather than evil) to undermine a social media campaign without even bothering to figure out its purpose."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Bet your attitude toward it would be different if it were Laura Bush or Sarah Palin.
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Bo D

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 10:37:12 AM
Bet your attitude toward it would be different if it were Laura Bush or Sarah Palin.

Laura Bush and Sarah Palin are not part of this discussion.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

"That is the key to 'just saying things': know nothing about what you're discussing, but then belittle the people who have actually done the research on a topic because, you know, reading is just elitist or something."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

But, since you brought it up ....

Sarah Palin "We gave smart people a chance. Now it's our turn."
                 "we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."

And Laura Bush .. well, she was just a Stepford wife caught in an unfortunate situation.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on May 19, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
Laura Bush and Sarah Palin are not part of this discussion.
Only as it pertained to what I posted about.
Quote from: Bo D on May 19, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
But, since you brought it up ....

Sarah Palin "We gave smart people a chance. Now it's our turn."
                 "we've got to stand with our North Korean allies."

And Laura Bush .. well, she was just a Stepford wife caught in an unfortunate situation.

This is called deflecting by trying to change the subject.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 19, 2014, 11:06:43 AM
"That is the key to 'just saying things': know nothing about what you're discussing, but then belittle the people who have actually done the research on a topic because, you know, reading is just elitist or something."
Michelle giving the weekly presidential address speaks volumes.  Shouldn't that have been done by our president?  Wouldn't it have carried more weight?  Where was he? 
QuoteMichelle Obama has taken the unique step of delivering her husband's weekly presidential address to express outrage at the kidnapping of the Nigerian schoolgirls.

Speaking for the first time instead of the US president, before what is Mothers' Day in the US on Sunday, she said the couple were "outraged and heartbroken" over the abduction of more than 300 girls from a school in Chibok on 14 April.

"What happened in Nigeria was not an isolated incident. It's a story we see every day as girls around the world risk their lives to pursue their ambitions.

"I want you to know that Barack has directed our government to do everything possible to support the Nigerian government's efforts to find these girls and bring them home. In these girls, Barack and I see our own daughters. We see their hopes, their dreams, and we can only imagine the anguish their parents are feeling right now."
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 01:47:13 PM
This is called deflecting by trying to change the subject.

Irony alert!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 01:47:13 PM
Michelle giving the weekly presidential address speaks volumes.  Shouldn't that have been done by our president?  Wouldn't it have carried more weight?  Where was he?

Quote from: Exterminator on May 19, 2014, 08:36:40 AM
"In other words, these right-wingers are people who have descended beneath the gutter into the viscous sewer of inhumanity, people who have surrendered any right to claim a role in civilized society.

This appears to stem from a pathological need, on the part of some conservatives, to ridicule or oppose everything that might, even tangentially, be connected to Barack Obama."

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 01:47:13 PM
This is called deflecting by trying to change the subject. Michelle giving the weekly presidential address speaks volumes.  Shouldn't that have been done by our president?  Wouldn't it have carried more weight?  Where was he?

There you go again. Not only have you changed the subject, you did it twice and then tried to blame us.

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 10:37:12 AM
Bet your attitude toward it would be different if it were Laura Bush or Sarah Palin.

ONE

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 01:47:13 PM
Michelle giving the weekly presidential address speaks volumes.  Shouldn't that have been done by our president?  Wouldn't it have carried more weight?  Where was he?

TWO

:rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on May 19, 2014, 01:59:59 PM
There you go again. Not only have you changed the subject, you did it twice and then tried to blame us.

ONE


TWO

:rolleyes:
Reply to Ex's post.  Didn't read the article did ya? 
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Bo D

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 03:17:40 PM
Reply to Ex's post.  Didn't read the article did ya?

Did you? Where does it mention Palin?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on May 19, 2014, 04:04:43 PM
Did you? Where does it mention Palin?
You are being nit picky to avoid the subject.  I was making a statement directed at Ex's reply to me.  What I said about reading the article was a reply to you.   :rolleyes:
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Bo D

Quote from: me on May 19, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
You are being nit picky to avoid the subject.  I was making a statement directed at Ex's reply to me.  What I said about reading the article was a reply to you.   :rolleyes:

Nit picky? The devil is in the details.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan