NSA surveillance and data capturing

[me]

Posted by: me
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Quote from: Exterminator on Today at 01:18:47 PM

    Here's another line that gets repeated over and over again even after we've shown her many times that she doesn't even know what Obama's policies are.

    I'd have more respect for these folks if they at least had enough integrity to say what they really think.

That didn't answer my question.
Quote from: me on Today at 12:09:21 PM

    Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies? 




http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=17637.msg475370#msg475370

[Bo D]

I was merely using a terminology used by Obama himself, when he was talking about the Bush administration using "illegal wiretapping of American Citizens".....

That's because Bush DID USE "illegal wiretapping of American Citizens" That is NOT what is going on now.

In acknowledging the message was true, President Bush ..... authorized wiretaps on U.S. citizens after September 11.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/

See? You're beginning to believe your own lies. 

[Bo D]

That was dealt with accordingly and is old news now.  That didn't happen in the US.  Remember?

You let that one go about ten feet over your head. I even heard the whoosh.

[Henry Hawk]

That's because Bush DID USE "illegal wiretapping of American Citizens" That is NOT what is going on now.

In acknowledging the message was true, President Bush ..... authorized wiretaps on U.S. citizens after September 11.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/

See? You're beginning to believe your own lies. 

What Bush allowed NSA to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations.....and that is what Obama is doing and still WANTS to do....."wiretapping" is STILL being done, except now it is on all Verizon and Internet companies.  It is STILL as wrong, or as right, (depending on your stance) as it was during the Bush administration.

[me]

You let that one go about ten feet over your head. I even heard the whoosh.

No, it did not.  It was meant to deflect and I just ended it. 

[me]

Posted by: me
« on: Today at 02:43:04 PM »

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Quote from: Exterminator on Today at 01:18:47 PM

    Here's another line that gets repeated over and over again even after we've shown her many times that she doesn't even know what Obama's policies are.

    I'd have more respect for these folks if they at least had enough integrity to say what they really think.

That didn't answer my question.
Quote from: me on Today at 12:09:21 PM

    Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies? 




http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=17637.msg475370#msg475370

[Bo D]

What Bush allowed NSA to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations.....and that is what Obama is doing and still WANTS to do....."wiretapping" is STILL being done, except now it is on all Verizon and Internet companies.  It is STILL as wrong, or as right, (depending on your stance) as it was during the Bush administration.

Bush allowed NSA to intercept the international communications of AMERICAN CITIZENS people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations.

What is being done now is NOT wiretapping. The NSA collected metadata only - records of phone call origins and destinations.

You really need to keep up better. 

[Bo D]

No, it did not.  It was meant to deflect and I just ended it.

I thought it was rather germane to the recent thread of conversation. Why Is Fox so upset about the NSA doing the exact same thing now that it did under the Bush administration? Especially since its owner is guilty of spying on private citizens - regardless of what country he did it in?

[me]

I thought it was rather germane to the recent thread of conversation. Why Is Fox so upset about the NSA doing the exact same thing now that it did under the Bush administration? Especially since its owner is guilty of spying on private citizens - regardless of what country he did it in?

It changes the subject to something else entirely and drops the discussion about the "data gathering" going by the government.  Deflection.

[me]

Posted by: me
« on: Today at 02:43:04 PM »

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Quote from: Exterminator on Today at 01:18:47 PM

    Here's another line that gets repeated over and over again even after we've shown her many times that she doesn't even know what Obama's policies are.

    I'd have more respect for these folks if they at least had enough integrity to say what they really think.

That didn't answer my question.
Quote from: me on Today at 12:09:21 PM

    Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies? 




http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=17637.msg475370#msg475370

[Exterminator]

If you didn't understand my previous answer, explaining this to you would be like trying to teach calculus to a pig.  Now run along and look up calculus in the dictionary, dear...

[libby]

Well, this shouldn't be.  Regardless of what anyone thinks of the NSA's intelligence gathering tactics, this man understood that he was dealing with highly classified matters of national security and agreed to keep those things in confidence.  With absolutely no regard for the possibility that perhaps...just maybe...he is only privy to a very small part of a much larger and more complicated picture, he took it upon himself, with all of the wisdom of his 29 years, to expose things about which he understands very little.  He is naive and violated the confidence to which he agreed.  He is a traitor.

Another interesting aspect of this circus is how everyone is whining about how "their" personal information is being collected and how that violates their fourth amendment rights.  Here's a clue for those folks: you do not own the information being collected by the government; your cell carrier does.  Those are not your records; they are theirs.

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[me]

If you didn't understand my previous answer, explaining this to you would be like trying to teach calculus to a pig.  Now run along and look up calculus in the dictionary, dear...

No, you did not answer my question you just tried to deflect it in another direction.   Just answer the question.


    Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies? 

[Exterminator]

No, you did not answer my question you just tried to deflect it in another direction.   Just answer the question.


    Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies?

I've answered this question for you several times.

[Exterminator]

LMFAO!  She's too stupid to know that blue text means a clickable link.  No wonder most of her comments on topics sound like they come from someone with turrets...she doesn't have clue what the rest of us are talking about and misses 95% of the information we link to!