Anyone else following this?

[me]

I hope they fry his ass.


Abortion Doctor Kermit Gosnell Ends Defense With No Witnesses

By COLLEEN CURRY
April 24, 2013

The attorney for controversial abortion doctor and accused murderer Kermit Gosnell rested his defense today without presenting any witnesses or calling on Gosnell to testify.

The announcement by Gosnell's attorney, Jack McMahon, came just a day after the defense began presenting its case, and signaled a quick end to a trial that has seen five weeks of testimony from prosecution witnesses.

Both prosecutors and defense attorneys will have the rest of the week to prepare closing statements in the case, which they will be present on Monday, according to ABC News affiliate WPVI.

Gosnell is charged with four counts of first degree murder stemming from the practices at his Philadelphia abortion clinic where he allegedly used untrained staff to help perform late term abortions that included, according to testimony, delivering babies and then killing them outside the womb.

He is accused of using scissors to snip the spinal chords of infants in cases where the abortion inside the womb failed, and the babies were delivered.

He could face the death penalty if convicted of first degree murder.

Prosecutors also say that the doctor overdosed a female patient with anesthesia and failed to get her medical help, which led to her death. He is charged with third degree murder in her death.

Earlier this week, Judge Jeffrey Minehart dismissed three other murder charges that concerned allegedly killing infants that were born alive. Minehart said there was not enough evidence to send the charges to a jury.


Workers from the clinic had testified during the prosecution's case that they had seen some of the infants take a breath or move after they were delivered from their mothers, which prosecutors said showed that Gosnell killed viable infants after botched abortions, leading to the murder charges.

Gosnell's attorney asked Minehart to dismiss the charges after the prosecution rested.

"There is not one piece - not one - of objective, scientific evidence that anyone was born alive," McMahon said, according to WPVI. "These are not the movements of a live child."

The trial has roused both sides of the abortion debate, with abortion-rights activists condemning Gosnell's murder as far outside the bounds of legalized abortion and anti-abortions rights groups hoping the trial sheds light on what they see as the troubling aspects of abortion.

Ann Scheidler, a vice president for the Pro-Life Action League, said that the dropped charges showed the "gray area" that is difficult to sort through when it comes to judging when an infant is considered alive, with its own rights.

"It certainly does highlight the complications that begin to emerge when you're talking about life and death and that short distance, that short time between being in the womb and out of the womb," Scheidler said.

"At some point we're going to have to face the issue of just what is the difference and why is it okay to take a person's life if that life is still inside the womb, or when the baby is outside the womb but the intention was to take its life inside," she said.

Vicki Saporta, president for the abortion rights group National Abortion Federation, said that Gosnell took advantage of the women who came to him in need of an abortion. She said his clinic is not representative of safe, regulated abortion clinics.

"Unfortunately, you do have rogue providers that prey on the most vulnerable of women and regardless of a woman's income level they deserve access to high quality care," Saporta said.

Saporta noted that Pennsylvania already has strict abortion regulations, but that the regulations were not enforced, allowing Gosnell to run an illegal operation.

"The fact that he wasn't providing care later and wasn't ensuring fetal demise and not operating under any established standards of care and outside of the law is the problem in this case, and not indicative of the high quality care available across the country," Saporta said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-ends-defense-witnesses/story?id=19031475#.UXlXz8qCUhc

[Anne]

I have seen a little about it, but it has not been in the media much, wonder why? He certainly isn't a good doctor, if what he is accused of is true (and I think it probably is).

[me]

It's been on Fox a lot.  They are following it pretty close and have someone in the court every day.  This guy is a sick person. 

[Y]

I have seen a little about it, but it has not been in the media much, wonder why? He certainly isn't a good doctor, if what he is accused of is true (and I think it probably is).

That's RW Noize Machine bull puckey!  Are you next going to make all the unwarranted extrapolations they have all based on that fallacious premise?

1. All anyone has to do is let your lil' fingers do the walking through Google and there are lots of legitimate media outlets covering the case.

2. The case is actually a local Philly murder case which is why you're not being inundated with it on your local Indiana - or other locales outside of PA. - news.

3. Murder case - local Philly to boot - not a legal case about abortion as you and the RW Noize Machine want it to be.

4. This isn't the first time some doctor turns out to be a sociopath.

That being said, the guy is apparently a nutbag or a monster and in either case should be removed from society.

[me]

That's RW Noize Machine bull puckey!  Are you next going to make all the unwarranted extrapolations they have all based on that fallacious premise?

1. All anyone has to do is let your lil' fingers do the walking through Google and there are lots of legitimate media outlets covering the case.

2. The case is actually a local Philly murder case which is why you're not being inundated with it on your local Indiana - or other locales outside of PA. - news.

3. Murder case - local Philly to boot - not a legal case about abortion as you and the RW Noize Machine want it to be.

4. This isn't the first time some doctor turns out to be a sociopath.

That being said, the guy is apparently a nutbag or a monster and in either case should be removed from society.

Has just as much to do with Indiana as that nut killing her boy friend that was all over the media.  How many other clinics may have this same thing going on in them?  People need to be made aware that all clinics are not good ones and raise questions about the ones in their area even if they are for abortion. 

[Y]

Has just as much to do with Indiana as that nut killing her boy friend that was all over the media.  How many other clinics may have this same thing going on in them?  People need to be made aware that all clinics are not good ones and raise questions about the ones in their area even if they are for abortion.

1. What nut are you talking about?

2. That's an entirely different subject.

[me]

1. What nut are you talking about?

2. That's an entirely different subject.

I'm talking about news worthiness.  That woman killing her boyfriend was not all that newsworthy. 

[Y]

I'm talking about news worthiness.  That woman killing her boyfriend was not all that newsworthy.

What woman?  It must not have been that newsworthy around here because I don't know who you're talking about - and I watch the news and read the local paper and news blurbs.

...and it's still another subject.   

[me]

What woman?  It must not have been that newsworthy around here because I don't know who you're talking about - and I watch the news and read the local paper and news blurbs.

...and it's still another subject.   

That idiot that stabbed and shot her boyfriend in the shower and now can't remember any of it.  Don't try to act like you didn't hear about it 'cause it was all over yahoo and other places.

[Y]

That idiot that stabbed and shot her boyfriend in the shower and now can't remember any of it.  Don't try to act like you didn't hear about it 'cause it was all over yahoo and other places.

Sorry, I really don't know what you're talking about.  I asked my wife and she doesn't know about it either.  Yee-hoo is only rarely in my diet - and I do mean rarely.  Sorry 'bout yer luck!   

[me]

Here ya go  https://www.google.com/search?q=jody+arias&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Anne]

Sorry, I really don't know what you're talking about.  I asked my wife and she doesn't know about it either.  Yee-hoo is only rarely in my diet - and I do mean rarely.  Sorry 'bout yer luck!   

CNN or one of those channels has the trial on every time I surf past it. I think maybe it is in Texas(?).

[Palehorse]

I hope they fry his ass.


Abortion Doctor Kermit Gosnell Ends Defense With No Witnesses

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/abortion-doctor-kermit-gosnell-ends-defense-witnesses/story?id=19031475#.UXlXz8qCUhc

Here ya go  https://www.google.com/search?q=jody+arias&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Both of these stories are nothing but sensationalistic journalism that belongs in the likes of the National Enquirer, etc.

And CNN is riding the Arias trial into the ground and straight to hell; and taking their reputation along for the ride.

[me]

Both of these stories are nothing but sensationalistic journalism that belongs in the likes of the National Enquirer, etc.

And CNN is riding the Arias trial into the ground and straight to hell; and taking their reputation along for the ride.

On the Arias trial I'll have to agree with you but the other one, Fox isn't running it into the ground just keeping things up to date, is something that should be reported on.  This place was a pig sty with untrained anesthesiologists and it hadn't been inspected for years.  How many more are there like this?  Hell, one woman testified she heard the baby's heart beat and changed her mind but was drugged and the baby taken anyway.  Another died because she was given too much anesthetic administered by an untrained anesthesiologist.  Just because these were poor people doesn't mean they should have to be subjected to those kind of conditions because some bureaucrat decided to let their inspections slide.  Yes, I'm against abortion but things like this should be brought to light and the clinics either closed down or restaffed. 

[Exterminator]

Where is your self-righteous indignation over this guy?