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Palehorse

#45
April 25, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: Y on April 25, 2013, 06:55:21 PM
...and ITG*!  LMAO!

(* internet tough guy)

S/he's just regurgitating the crap from the RW Noize Machine...doesn't have an original thought in its head.   :wink:

Yup!  :biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#46
May 01, 2013, 11:25:20 AM
3 additional suspects in the custody of the FBI this morning. . .  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#47
May 01, 2013, 11:36:11 AM
 :spooked:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

#48
May 01, 2013, 04:27:22 PM


  Three more victims.  What the feds are trying to pull on these kids is plain bullshit and overkill.   :yes:  The Feds are trying to make themselves look good.   :rant:

Anne

#49
May 01, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Don't lie to the feds.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

#50
May 02, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
Quote from: Anne on May 01, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Don't lie to the feds.

  Got a little advice for you Annie.  If the FBI ever comes to you and ask some questions DON'T SAY A THING.  Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years.  This is the advice from a big time lawyer.   :yes:

  Old Martha Stewart was tried for stock fraud which she was found innocent, but the FBI said she had lied to them and she went to jail, this also happened to Susan McDougle.   :yes:

Palehorse

#51
May 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
  Got a little advice for you Annie.  If the FBI ever comes to you and ask some questions DON'T SAY A THING.  Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years.  This is the advice from a big time lawyer.   :yes:

  Old Martha Stewart was tried for stock fraud which she was found innocent, but the FBI said she had lied to them and she went to jail, this also happened to Susan McDougle.   :yes:

If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#52
May 02, 2013, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.

Also, Martha Stewart actually did lie to them.  :yes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Anne

#53
May 02, 2013, 07:08:27 PM
Don't worry, I don't plan on ever doing anything that the feds would come looking for me and I certainly wouldn't lie to them. I don't think I would like federal prison.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

#54
May 02, 2013, 11:27:53 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.

  How so?  You aren't required to say anything that  an Constitution right.  You know damn well the feds can twist anything you say.  They can't twist nothing.  Let them get a court order, say nothing off the cuff.   :yes:

Palehorse

#55
May 03, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 11:27:53 PM
  How so?  You aren't required to say anything that  an Constitution right.  You know damn well the feds can twist anything you say.  They can't twist nothing.  Let them get a court order, say nothing off the cuff.   :yes:

You answered your own question:

Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
  . . . Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years.  . . .

If the feds come to your door, then 80-90% of the time they already know the answers to the questions they are there to ask you. They've done their homework and in most cases have taken months or years to get to that point. (Unless you've just plain screwed the pooch and left the answers out in broad daylight).

So, if they know the answers and have the evidence to fit you with a nice set of shiny bracelets, you don't have to say a damned word. You are going to the sin bin. However, the truth can set you free. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

#56
May 03, 2013, 06:19:01 AM


Quote from: Palehorse on May 03, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
You answered your own question:

If the feds come to your door, then 80-90% of the time they already know the answers to the questions they are there to ask you. They've done their homework and in most cases have taken months or years to get to that point. (Unless you've just plain screwed the pooch and left the answers out in broad daylight).

So, if they know the answers and have the evidence to fit you with a nice set of shiny bracelets, you don't have to say a damned word. You are going to the sin bin. However, the truth can set you free. . .
I went to work for the feds in 1986 and I agree with everything  Palehorse wrote.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

#57
May 04, 2013, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: libby on May 03, 2013, 06:19:01 AM
I went to work for the feds in 1986 and I agree with everything  Palehorse wrote.

Yep. It seems they work very slowly to outsiders, but once they act more often than not the target is all but wrapped up in a nice, neat package and accompanied by a ton of evidence to validate things. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

#58
May 04, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 04, 2013, 12:34:55 AM
Yep. It seems they work very slowly to outsiders, but once they act more often than not the target is all but wrapped up in a nice, neat package and accompanied by a ton of evidence to validate things. . .

  But the Feds don't have a 100% perfect record of getting the right person with the right charges or evidence.  Just like the some of the questions the prosecutors ask.

  Are you still beating your wife?  Are you still beating the kids?  Still using dope?  All question to lead and deceive the jury.   :yes:

  Or at a trail when you are being questioned and you're telling the true facts of the case which are just a little different from what you said to the investigators at the actual time of the so called offense.  The question, "Are you lying now or were you lying when you first talked with us?"

  Two questions of the many questions to make you out a liar and cast doubts on your honesty.  Always getting the right person :haha:  Just like the 18 people released from life in prison and death penalties in Illinois because of DNA tests proved it wasn't them.  They convicted the wrong persons with a shyster prosecutor and a jury of 12 of your "peers".   :rant:  The judicial system in this country is not a good and honest as we are made to believe.   :yes: :rolleyes: :doh:

Palehorse

#59
May 04, 2013, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: The Troll on May 04, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
  But the Feds don't have a 100% perfect record of getting the right person with the right charges or evidence.  Just like the some of the questions the prosecutors ask.

  Are you still beating your wife?  Are you still beating the kids?  Still using dope?  All question to lead and deceive the jury.   :yes:

  Or at a trail when you are being questioned and you're telling the true facts of the case which are just a little different from what you said to the investigators at the actual time of the so called offense.  The question, "Are you lying now or were you lying when you first talked with us?"

  Two questions of the many questions to make you out a liar and cast doubts on your honesty.  Always getting the right person :haha:  Just like the 18 people released from life in prison and death penalties in Illinois because of DNA tests proved it wasn't them.  They convicted the wrong persons with a shyster prosecutor and a jury of 12 of your "peers".   :rant:  The judicial system in this country is not a good and honest as we are made to believe.   :yes: :rolleyes: :doh:

You are mixing cases. For 2011 the federal conviction rate was at 93%.

A sampling of the state conviction rates ranges between 59% (Florida) to 84% (Texas) for the same year.

Lawyers have a duty incumbent to their position; to prosecute / defend to the best of their ability. They also have a wide range of styles and methods within which they achieve their results.

I would admit that state level prosecutions tend to resemble the bumbling idiocy which their conviction rates would indicate they are. But when the feds come calling with a 93% conviction rate, idiocy is the last thing that comes to mind. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville
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