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Started by Henry Hawk, February 26, 2013, 09:10:40 AM

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 26, 2013, 11:41:35 AM
Well here ya, go....a perfect example of this topics title....

Watch the video first...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_ngyckoSYu0




MSNBC's Chuck Todd criticized Monday the new fundraising efforts of President Obama's dark money group, Organizing for Action, calling a scheme for high donors to meet regularly with Obama "the definition of selling access."
Todd was describing the quarterly meetings that will be enjoyed by OFA's $500,000 donors, the New York Times reported over the weekend:
>But those contributions will also translate into access, according to donors courted by the president's aides. Next month, Organizing for Action will hold a "founders summit" at a hotel near the White House, where donors paying $50,000 each will mingle with Mr. Obama's former campaign manager, Jim Messina, and Mr. Carson, who previously led the White House Office of Public Engagement.

Giving or raising $500,000 or more puts donors on a national advisory board for Mr. Obama's group and the privilege of attending quarterly meetings with the president, along with other meetings at the White House. Moreover, the new cash demands on Mr. Obama's top donors and bundlers come as many of them are angling for appointments to administration jobs or ambassadorships.

"This just looks bad–it looks like the White House is selling access," Todd said Monday. "It's the definition of selling access. If you believe money has a strangle hold over the entire political system this is ceding the moral high ground."

The perk was first reported by the Los Angeles Times earlier in February after a meeting between OFA leadership and top Los Angeles and Bay Area fundraisers for Obama's reelection campaign.

OFA is a tax-exempt 501(c)(4) and therefore not required to disclose the identities of its donors, nor the amounts they give. In addition to major campaign donors, the organization's leadership has been courting corporate donors.

http://freebeacon.com/chuck-todd-on-ofa-fundraising-this-just-looks-bad/
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 26, 2013, 11:43:54 AM
Well here ya, go....a perfect example of this topics title....

Watch the video first...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_ngyckoSYu0




MSNBC's Chuck Todd criticized Monday the new fundraising efforts of President Obama's dark money group, Organizing for Action, calling a scheme for high donors to meet regularly with Obama "the definition of selling access."
Todd was describing the quarterly meetings that will be enjoyed by OFA's $500,000 donors, the New York Times reported over the weekend:
>But those contributions will also translate into access, according to donors courted by the president's aides. Next month, Organizing for Action will hold a "founders summit" at a hotel near the White House, where donors paying $50,000 each will mingle with Mr. Obama's former campaign manager, Jim Messina, and Mr. Carson, who previously led the White House Office of Public Engagement.

Giving or raising $500,000 or more puts donors on a national advisory board for Mr. Obama's group and the privilege of attending quarterly meetings with the president, along with other meetings at the White House. Moreover, the new cash demands on Mr. Obama's top donors and bundlers come as many of them are angling for appointments to administration jobs or ambassadorships.

"This just looks bad–it looks like the White House is selling access," Todd said Monday. "It's the definition of selling access. If you believe money has a strangle hold over the entire political system this is ceding the moral high ground."

The perk was first reported by the Los Angeles Times earlier in February after a meeting between OFA leadership and top Los Angeles and Bay Area fundraisers for Obama's reelection campaign.

OFA is a tax-exempt 501(c)(4) and therefore not required to disclose the identities of its donors, nor the amounts they give. In addition to major campaign donors, the organization's leadership has been courting corporate donors.

http://freebeacon.com/chuck-todd-on-ofa-fundraising-this-just-looks-bad/
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on February 26, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
:swim: :fish:

  Keep it up Horse, old Henry gets all flustered when you don't take his bait.  :rotfl:   :laugh:

me

Ya know HH I think they don't believe this even coming from msnbc.  Now is that being blind to the truth or what?
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The Troll

Quote from: me on February 26, 2013, 12:29:10 PM
Ya know HH I think they don't believe this even coming from msnbc.  Now is that being blind to the truth or what?

  And you're saying that the word of Chuck Todd is the word of god.  Hell, he was just a new reader on Washington Journal a couple a years ago.   :yes:  Give me a break Honey Poo.   :rolleyes: :biggrin:

me

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/politics/obamas-backers-seek-deep-pockets-to-press-agenda.html?pagewanted=1&%2359&ref=politics&%2359;_r=0&_r=1&



QuoteObama's Backers Seek Big Donors to Press Agenda
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
Published: February 22, 2013 383 Comments

 

President Obama's political team is fanning out across the country in pursuit of an ambitious goal: raising $50 million to convert his re-election campaign into a powerhouse national advocacy network, a sum that would rank the new group as one of Washington's biggest lobbying operations.

Doug Mills/The New York Times

President Obama has said that his public campaign against Republicans is not producing results.
But the rebooted campaign, known as Organizing for Action, has plunged the president and his aides into a campaign finance limbo with few clear rules, ample potential for influence-peddling, and no real precedent in national politics.

In private meetings and phone calls, Mr. Obama's aides have made clear that the new organization will rely heavily on a small number of deep-pocketed donors, not unlike the "super PACs" whose influence on political campaigns Mr. Obama once deplored.

At least half of the group's budget will come from a select group of donors who will each contribute or raise $500,000 or more, according to donors and strategists involved in the effort.

Unlike a presidential campaign, Organizing for Action has been set up as a tax-exempt "social welfare group." That means it is not bound by federal contribution limits, laws that bar White House officials from soliciting contributions, or the stringent reporting requirements for campaigns. In their place, the new group will self-regulate.

Officials said it would voluntarily disclose the names of large donors every few months and would not ask administration personnel to solicit money, though Obama aides will probably appear at some events.

The money will pay for salaries, rent and advertising, and will also be used to maintain the expensive voter database and technological infrastructure that knits together Mr. Obama's 2 million volunteers, 17 million e-mail subscribers and 22 million Twitter followers.

The goal is to harness those resources in support of Mr. Obama's second-term policy priorities, including efforts to curb gun violence and climate change and overhaul immigration procedures. Those efforts began Friday, when thousands of Obama supporters were deployed through more than 80 Congressional districts around the country to rally outside lawmakers' offices, hold vigils and bombard Congress with e-mails and phone calls urging members to support stricter background checks for gun buyers.

"There are wins we can have on guns and immigration," Jon Carson, the group's new executive director, told prospective donors on a conference call on Wednesday, according to people who participated. "We have to change the conventional wisdom on those issues."

But those contributions will also translate into access, according to donors courted by the president's aides. Next month, Organizing for Action will hold a "founders summit" at a hotel near the White House, where donors paying $50,000 each will mingle with Mr. Obama's former campaign manager, Jim Messina, and Mr. Carson, who previously led the White House Office of Public Engagement.

Giving or raising $500,000 or more puts donors on a national advisory board for Mr. Obama's group and the privilege of attending quarterly meetings with the president, along with other meetings at the White House. Moreover, the new cash demands on Mr. Obama's top donors and bundlers come as many of them are angling for appointments to administration jobs or ambassadorships.

"It just smells," said Bob Edgar, the president of Common Cause, which advocates tighter regulation of campaign money. "The president is setting a very bad model setting up this organization."

Mr. Obama's new organization has drawn rebukes in recent days from watchdog groups, which view it as another step away from the tighter campaign regulation Mr. Obama once championed. Over the past two years, he has reversed course on several campaign finance issues, by blessing a super PAC created by former aides and accepting large corporate contributions for his second inauguration.

Many traditional advocacy organizations, including the Sierra Club and the National Rifle Association, are set up as social welfare groups, or 501(c)(4)'s in tax parlance. But unlike those groups, Organizing for Action appears to be an extension of the administration, stocked with alumni of Mr. Obama's White House and campaign teams and devoted solely to the president's second-term agenda.

Robert K. Kelner, a Republican election lawyer who works with other outside groups, said the arrangement "presents a rather simple loophole in the otherwise incredibly complex web of government ethics regulations that are intended to insulate government officials from outside influence."
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me


http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-ofa-solicits-high-dollar-bundlers-20130214,0,1262414.story
Quote
By Matea Gold

February 14, 2013, 11:01 a.m.

WASHINGTON -- Leaders of Organizing for Action, President Obama's new nonprofit advocacy group, are courting his top campaign bundlers to be part of a high-dollar fundraising network that will help finance the work of the nascent organization.

During a swing through the Bay Area and Los Angeles this week, OFA Chairman Jim Messina and Executive Director Jon Carson met with members of the Obama campaign's National Finance Committee and told them there will be a similar structure in place to support the work of the nonprofit group, which is set up as a 501(c)4 social welfare organization. They were accompanied by Rufus Gifford, who served as finance director for Obama's reelection bid.

OFA officials declined to comment on the record, but confirmed that the group would have a finance committee similar to that of the campaign.

Bundlers will probably be asked to raised $500,000 to be part of the committee. Such top fundraisers will get perks in return. One reward that was floated as a possibility was an invitation to quarterly meetings with Obama.

Such proximity to the president is nothing new for those being courted, who include the most prolific fundraisers for Obama's political campaigns.

"People are not doing this to get their third or sixth photo with the president," said one bundler who attended an OFA fundraising outreach session this week. "Everybody is in because they are in."

Messina and Carson told attendees that the group would disclose donors on a quarterly basis, although the organization is not required to do so under law. Exact contributions will not be listed; rather, donors will be listed under different ranges of contributions.

The donor meetings, which included a breakfast Wednesday at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills, marked the first fundraising trip by OFA officials as they gear up the new organization. Messina also sent an email to Obama supporters after the president's State of the Union speech Tuesday night, asking for contributions of $5 and up for the nonprofit.

The reception was largely positive among the big donors and bundlers, several of whom expressed satisfaction that there was a plan in place to press Obama's agenda. There is strong support for gun control measures, in particular.

"The reaction is, 'Great, we were wondering what we do next,' " said one.

The fundraising trip comes as OFA is increasingly taking form as the home for Obama's operations outside of the White House. As of this week, the Twitter accounts of both Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama are listed as being run by "Organizing for Action staff."
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followsthewolf

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 26, 2013, 11:12:57 AM
So, it is just discuss items that glorify the democrats and bash republicans.......is THAT what I am hearing?

You have no input on this issue, that Obama is being severly hypocritical and selling OUR White House and His Title for profit?

It is just a waste of time?  You "don't care"?

It seems as if EVERY time, I have FACTS and INTERESTING information that is indicative of this POTUS........it is just a "waste of time" or you begin to name call or wish something BAD to happen to me.

I get it!  ;)

That's doubtful.

You got all prickly about criticism of the HUGE amounts of money that were given to........who the hell was he???.....oh, yeah, some guy named Romney when he ran for the presidency.

You defended the Koch brothers' right to send as much as they wanted whenever they wanted in order to buy the office.

Now you are all crippy-crappy about the Democrats building a war chest.

Wow.

Pfffffftttttt.

Like I said. Don't care how piffle-dinky you get.

Get over it.

(Eagles again.)
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
That's doubtful.

You got all prickly about criticism of the HUGE amounts of money that were given to........who the hell was he???.....oh, yeah, some guy named Romney when he ran for the presidency.

You defended the Koch brothers' right to send as much as they wanted whenever they wanted in order to buy the office.

Now you are all crippy-crappy about the Democrats building a war chest.

Wow.

Pfffffftttttt.

Like I said. Don't care how piffle-dinky you get.

Get over it.

(Eagles again.)

and the same goes to you.....pfffft yourself.

So, it is NOW okay, to buy the office?  You get cranky when the scotus makes a rule, but when it is convenient for you and your side........it is just time to "get over it"

I'm not sure what piffle-dinky is, and I damn sure am not getting crippy-crappy..

I actually don't give a rats behind.........but, I thought I would just see how much hypocrisy there is here and WOW!  There most certainly is!

So YOU get over it..........pfffft!

Hey just to quote some appropriate Eagle songs....

I say, ever since we had the New Kid In Town, there has been some Lyin Eyes in Washington.  James Dean would have a Heartache Tonight.. Obama is going to Take it to the Limit because he is Guilty of the Crime!  So, I Don't Want To Hear Anymore whinning about the republicans, because they are Already Gone!

So, Take It Easy,
I Wish You Peace,

HH

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

Nicely done, but you're still

crippy-crappy

and

Piffle-dinky.

So there.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

In keeping with the Eagles theme, the bolded portions of the below track from their Long Road Out Of Eden release, pretty much sums it up for me.

"Frail Grasp On The Big Picture"

Well, ain't it a shame
That our short little memories
Never seem to learn
The message of history
We keep makin' the same mistakes
Over and over and over and over again
And then we wonder why
We're in the shape we're in

Good ol' boys down at the bar
Peanuts and politics
They think they know it all
They don't know much of nothing
Even if one of them was to read the newspaper
Cover-to-cover
That ain't what's going on
Journalism's dead and gone

Frail grasp on the big picture
Light fading and the fog is getting thicker
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
Dark ages


You my love-drunk friend
All that red wine and candlelight
Soulful conversations
That go on until the dawn
How many times can you tell your story?
How many hangovers can you endure
Just to get some snuggling done?
You're living in a hollow dream
You don't have the slightest notion
What long-term love is all about
All your romantic liasons
Don't deal with eternal questions like
Who left the cap off the freaking toothpaste?
Whose turn to take the garbage out?

Frail grasp on the big picture
You keep on rubbin' that, you're gonna get a blister
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
I've seen it all before

And we pray to our Lord
Who we know is American
He reigns from on high
He speaks to us through many men
And he shepherds his flock
We sing out and we praise His name
He supports us in war
He presides over football games
And the right will prevail
All our troubles shall be resolved
We have faith above all
Unless there's money or sex involved

Frail grasp on the big picture
Nobody's calling them for roughing up the kicker
It's a frail grasp on the big picture
Heaven help us

Frail grasp on the big picture
All waiting for that miracle elixir
Frail grasp on the big picture
I don't wonder anymore

Frail grasp on the big picture
Somebody says, "You brought her here so go ahead and kiss her
Frail grasp on the big picture


Frail grasp on the big picture
Light fading and the fog is getting thicker
It's a frail grasp on the big picture

Frail grasp on the big picture
Frail grasp on the big picture
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

It would do you some good if you actually let those words sink in and look around you. 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 26, 2013, 11:33:29 PM
It would do you some good if you actually let those words sink in and look around you.

It would do you some good to actually understand exactly what the author of that song is talking about.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville