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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 22, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
He is a demagogue at its finest.

A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, prejudices, and ignorance of the less-educated people of a population in order to gain power. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

Based on my highlighted portions, all demagogues are, by definition, inherently conservatives.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 22, 2013, 11:30:40 AM
Rand Paul, for the second year has given money BACK to the US Treasury for unspent money for his operating costs.  Last year he gave back $500,000 and this year he gave back $600,000.  He also said, that if the federal wages was lined up with the private sector, it would save the tax payers $50 billion.
THAT is the type of LEADERSHIP we need in Washington.

In what is quickly becoming a Kentuckian end run play, Paul did just that. But what has he truly done? Why, cut his office operating budget of course, which resulted in the firing of several aids and administrative positions within his office.

No different than holding unemployment extensions hostage in the midst of historic levels of unemployment in this country. The needs of the many do not outweigh the need of the few, or the one, to be able to point to something that "demonstrates" action.  :rolleyes:

Really, this is the kind of leadership this country needs? A closet nazi who sacrifices the livelihoods of the least in order to further those who possess the most?  :spooked:

Get back to me when he returns 30% or more of his salary. The reality is the lion's share of congressional members don't need the salary they draw.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 22, 2013, 11:33:32 AM
A demagogue or rabble-rouser is a political leader in a democracy who appeals to the emotions, prejudices, and ignorance of the less-educated people of a population in order to gain power. Demagogues usually oppose deliberation and advocate immediate, violent action to address a national crisis; they accuse moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

Based on my highlighted portions, all demagogues are, by definition, inherently conservatives.

Are you kidding me? THAT fits Obama to a TEE!

"Emergency responders like the ones who are here today -- their ability to help communities respond to and recover from disasters will be degraded. Border Patrol agents will see their hours reduced. FBI agents will be furloughed. Federal prosecutors will have to close cases and let criminals go. Air traffic controllers and airport security will see cutbacks, which means more delays at airports across the country. Thousands of teachers and educators will be laid off. Tens of thousands of parents will have to scramble to find childcare for their kids. Hundreds of thousands of Americans will lose access to primary care and preventive care like flu vaccinations and cancer screenings."
The repbulicans want dirty air & water. They don't care about sick people. They want the old people to die.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Exterminator on February 22, 2013, 11:33:32 AM
emotions, prejudices, and ignorance of the less-educated people of a population

appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population.

These passages absolutely describe people like you and 'me'...the lowest common denominator.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on February 22, 2013, 11:42:47 AM
In what is quickly becoming a Kentuckian end run play, Paul did just that. But what has he truly done? Why, cut his office operating budget of course, which resulted in the firing of several aids and administrative positions within his office.

No different than holding unemployment extensions hostage in the midst of historic levels of unemployment in this country. The needs of the many do not outweigh the need of the few, or the one, to be able to point to something that "demonstrates" action.  :rolleyes:

Really, this is the kind of leadership this country needs? A closet nazi who sacrifices the livelihoods of the least in order to further those who possess the most?  :spooked:

Get back to me when he returns 30% or more of his salary. The reality is the lion's share of congressional members don't need the salary they draw.



MORE demagoguary!! Can you back up anything you just said about him?  A closet Nazi....REALLY?!?  Can you prove that he fired SEVERAL of his aids or are you just blowin off?

He said last night, ON GRETA..... that he did NOT lay off anybody!!!  He had a couple leave for other jobs, and he did not replace them.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/sen-rand-paul-on-the-record-8/  just watch it and you will have my proof.

YOu are damned right THAT is the type of leadership we MUST have, if we want this Nation to once again be prosperous.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 22, 2013, 11:59:44 AM
These passages absolutely describe people like you and 'me'...the lowest common denominator.

Now I know for a fact that YOU MUST be a drug-user or have a serious mental disability...If you cannot see this behaviour out of our POTUS or the democrat party, then we GOT to quit discussing anything any further.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 22, 2013, 12:00:27 PM
MORE demagoguary!! Can you back up anything you just said about him?  A closet Nazi....REALLY?!?  Can you prove that he fired SEVERAL of his aids or are you just blowin off?

He said last night, ON GRETA..... that he did NOT lay off anybody!!!  He had a couple leave for other jobs, and he did not replace them.

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/sen-rand-paul-on-the-record-8/  just watch it and you will have my proof.

YOu are damned right THAT is the type of leadership we MUST have, if we want this Nation to once again be prosperous.

That is what is termed in the business world as a "reduction in force via attrition"; so you proved my point already.

Washington (CNN) -- Pain from forced spending cuts is a week away and lawmakers are preparing their aides for the fallout that could hit them like other government workers.
"We've actually budgeted with a 10% cut in mind," Rep. Cheri Bustos, D-Illinois, told CNN last week.
Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Florida, reorganized his office in December.
"We had to let people go then because we were anticipating at least a 16% cut," he said. . . .

But members of Congress, the very people who voted to put the automatic spending cuts in place, won't see any change to their annual salary of $174,000.
Why?
Because Congress can only change its pay by passing a law to do so.
Before Congress left town for a week's recess, CNN took an informal survey and asked lawmakers if they were willing to take a pay cut if the so-called sequester was set in motion on March 1. . . .


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/21/politics/budget-congress-pay/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on February 22, 2013, 12:07:57 PM
That is what is termed in the business world as a "reduction in force via attrition"; so you proved my point already.

Washington (CNN) -- Pain from forced spending cuts is a week away and lawmakers are preparing their aides for the fallout that could hit them like other government workers.
"We've actually budgeted with a 10% cut in mind," Rep. Cheri Bustos, D-Illinois, told CNN last week.
Rep. Dennis Ross, R-Florida, reorganized his office in December.
"We had to let people go then because we were anticipating at least a 16% cut," he said. . . .

But members of Congress, the very people who voted to put the automatic spending cuts in place, won't see any change to their annual salary of $174,000.
Why?
Because Congress can only change its pay by passing a law to do so.
Before Congress left town for a week's recess, CNN took an informal survey and asked lawmakers if they were willing to take a pay cut if the so-called sequester was set in motion on March 1. . . .


http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/21/politics/budget-congress-pay/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

And as for his being a closet Nazi - His stand on the CRA clearly supports my position. I guess you have forgotten about this then?

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=16970.0
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 22, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
Now I know for a fact that YOU MUST be a drug-user or have a serious mental disability...

Still don't get it; do you?  Every time you start a sentence with, "I seen," I go ahead and assume that you will never be ending that sentence with, "the inside of a book."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on February 22, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Yes. that is exactly what you are doing!  :yes:
What have I spun?   :spooked:   it was YOU who is spinning!!

OMG! You guys are incredible..... :no:

I am glad the weekend is here.........I am ready for some R&R.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 22, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
Still don't get it; do you?  "I seen,"

The real reason is that because "seen" is the past participle of to see; it should be used with the auxiliary verb to have...but you wouldn' understand proper english.    :wink: :razz: 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW