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Drones and football

Started by RC, February 06, 2013, 11:05:49 AM

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followsthewolf

Only for certain posters.

Those who do not deserve respect.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2013, 04:41:58 PM
Only for certain posters.

Those who do not deserve respect.
Once again, right out of the play book. 
Trump 2020

followsthewolf

In other words --

You got nothin'.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2013, 05:02:23 PM
In other words --

You got nothin'.
Which is why you come back with things like you do, 'cause you've got nothin'. 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: RC on February 06, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
. . .
Women are unique and special, and deserve to be honored and protected.  They are in deed equal in all regards except in the front lines of combat.  I want no part of a culture that says it is alright to send them to the front line.

. . .

Is this Biblical wisdom you are trying to turn into law, or just a spin you want to impart upon it to leverage your racist hate filled agenda?

Fell free to move to Israel or Canada if you want no part of it. And for the record, they (women) voluntarily joined and assumed the risks themselves.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 06, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
So I guess ABC is just short of being classified as not being a reliable news source now too.  You all really need to quit ignoring and excusing some of these things that are going on.

Did I say that? No. . . but feel free to continue ignoring the point(s). . . Right out of YOUR playbook.  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 06, 2013, 04:32:27 PM
Uh, water boarding does not kill drones do.

Had you ever been subjected to water-boarding you would not be so quick to dismiss it's abusiveness and abject denial of basic human rights. . .


And for the record water-boarding can indeed kill, and has. . . One can drown on a teaspoon of liquid.

And as my esteemed colleague stated earlier, (I paraphrase), would you rather our sons and daughters be sent to confront these miscreants face-to-face, rather than the utilization of the technology that allows us to reach out and touch them from a distance?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: RC on February 06, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
Terrorists that are citizens deserve the Constitution protections that are for all citizens. If they are found guilty of a crime, then give them the death penalty.  Non citizens, deserve nothing and what every they do to get info is fine.

That isn't how our justice system or our Constitution works; everyone, citizen or not, has the same rights in our legal system.

That notwithstanding, if I had irrefutable proof that you were a terrorist who'd taken arms against this country, I would have no compunction whatsoever about skipping the legal process and putting a bullet in your head.  In fact, I think it far more egregious for a U.S. citizen to join the enemy than somone who is not and would probably be inclined to make your death as slow and painful as possible.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

followsthewolf

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 07, 2013, 01:25:47 AM
Is this Biblical wisdom you are trying to turn into law, or just a spin you want to impart upon it to leverage your racist hate filled agenda?

Fell free to move to Israel or Canada if you want no part of it. And for the record, they (women) voluntarily joined and assumed the risks themselves.
There is no privacy in a fox hole and there are times when women need and should have privacy not to mention the "extra supplies" which would be needed.  Serving "on" the front lines and "serving" the front lines are two different things.  As a combat pilot or flying a rescue helicopter, yes, but shoulder to shoulder in combat, no.
Trump 2020

me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 07, 2013, 01:30:01 AM
Had you ever been subjected to water-boarding you would not be so quick to dismiss it's abusiveness and abject denial of basic human rights. . .


And for the record water-boarding can indeed kill, and has. . . One can drown on a teaspoon of liquid.

And as my esteemed college stated earlier, (I paraphrase), would you rather our sons and daughters be sent to confront these miscreants face-to-face, rather than the utilization of the technology that allows us to reach out and touch them from a distance?
Even the ACLU who loves Obama sees a problem with this.
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Let me see if I am getting this correct here.  It was wrong for the Bush Administration to allow Water Boarding to KNOWN terrorist, who HAD vital information, that could prevent the loss of American lives by applying a method, that did NOT kill.  But is entirely okay to actually KILL someone who MIGHT be associated with terroists or the terrorist themselves?  Killing is better than a harsh interrogation technique?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2013, 10:36:40 AM
Let me see if I am getting this correct here.  It was wrong for the Bush Administration to allow Water Boarding to KNOWN terrorist, who HAD vital information, that could prevent the loss of American lives by applying a method, that did NOT kill.  But is entirely okay to actually KILL someone who MIGHT be associated with terroists or the terrorist themselves?  Killing is better than a harsh interrogation technique?
HH don't you know that to disagree with the current administration you have to be able to withstand being ridiculed and there are those who just cannot stand that so they will agree with anything this administration does rather than open themselves up for what they dish out.
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 07, 2013, 09:50:47 AM
  Even the ACLU who loves Obama sees a problem with this.

They have a problem with water-boarding too, but don't let that stop you. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 07, 2013, 10:36:40 AM
Let me see if I am getting this correct here.  It was wrong for the Bush Administration to allow Water Boarding to KNOWN terrorist, who HAD vital information, that could prevent the loss of American lives by applying a method, that did NOT kill.  But is entirely okay to actually KILL someone who MIGHT be associated with terroists or the terrorist themselves?  Killing is better than a harsh interrogation technique?

No, you don't have it correct. But don't let that stop you.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville