The HCRA

[me]

I surmise you're as willfully ignorant as the other intellectually dishonest clods from the RW Noize Machine.

Obama's point always carried with it the implicit disclaimer "as long as the plan complies with the law".

You're welcome for my explaining that to y'all...and Merry Christmas!   

"As long as it complies with the law" was a revision after the fact as was changing the law without going through the proper channels. 

[me]

[The Troll]

  Why don't you give it Sweet Pea, HCRA is the law.       

[Henry Hawk]

I have two first hand experiences with the new law.  One is very good friend of mine who owns his own business, just found out that Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield will no longer provide the insurance plan he was on, due to the new law on obamacare, and will cancel them in April.  His cost now thru Obamacare has doubled and costs him $600 per month.
Same thing with my sister and brother-in-law.....he is losing his employ insurance where he works and his personal out of pocket will cost him an additional $200 a month above what he was paying.

This thing is a disaster.

So, far it has not affected me, but I am waiting for the rug to be pulled out and any given time.

[The Troll]

I have two first hand experiences with the new law.  One is very good friend of mine who owns his own business, just found out that Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield will no longer provide the insurance plan he was on, due to the new law on obamacare, and will cancel them in April.  His cost now thru Obamacare has doubled and costs him $600 per month.
Same thing with my sister and brother-in-law.....he is losing his employ insurance where he works and his personal out of pocket will cost him an additional $200 a month above what he was paying.

This thing is a disaster.

So, far it has not affected me, but I am waiting for the rug to be pulled out and any given time.

  For some reason I just don't believe you.     I have heard so many stories like that, when the truth came out the story was false.   

[Henry Hawk]

  For some reason I just don't believe you.     I have heard so many stories like that, when the truth came out the story was false.   

Troll, there has been many time I haven't believed in a word that you have said, so I can identify with you.  But, I am telling you the 100%, honest, factual truth.  These two cases are by people I know who are simply telling the facts that has happened to them.  I have heard several stories similar and wondered my self, but NOW, it has hit close to home.  I think we are only going to hear more and more about such horrible stories.

[The Troll]

Troll, there has been many time I haven't believed in a word that you have said, so I can identify with you.  But, I am telling you the 100%, honest, factual truth.  These two cases are by people I know who are simply telling the facts that has happened to them.  I have heard several stories similar and wondered my self, but NOW, it has hit close to home.  I think we are only going to hear more and more about such horrible stories.

  Yes I have heard of the terrible, terrible, terrible stories of were it cost a little more, but when the truth came out the new insurance was so much better, covered so many more things that their old insurance didn't have and was a con game and almost worthless when the people really need it.   Quit watching Fox News and all of those Republicans bloggs.  They are lying to you Henry.   

[Bo D]

I have two first hand experiences with the new law.  One is very good friend of mine who owns his own business, just found out that Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield will no longer provide the insurance plan he was on, due to the new law on obamacare, and will cancel them in April.  His cost now thru Obamacare has doubled and costs him $600 per month.
Same thing with my sister and brother-in-law.....he is losing his employ insurance where he works and his personal out of pocket will cost him an additional $200 a month above what he was paying.

This thing is a disaster.

So, far it has not affected me, but I am waiting for the rug to be pulled out and any given time.

What kind of insurance can you get for $300/month? Seriously?

I pay $846/month for Blue Cross/Blue Shield through our company plan.

I, too, have a hard time believing that story.

[Henry Hawk]

  Yes I have heard of the terrible, terrible, terrible stories of were it cost a little more, but when the truth came out the new insurance was so much better, covered so many more things that their old insurance didn't have and was a con game and almost worthless when the people really need it.   Quit watching Fox News and all of those Republicans bloggs.  They are lying to you Henry.   

This news I told you about did not come from FoxNews.  It came directly from a friend and my sister.  Both cases, the cost is going up over $200 a month than what they were paying.  Both still have a high deductible to meet.  They didn't say if it was better, but the fact is, they are FORCED to belly up more money a month on something they was content with before.  THAT is WRONG.

[Henry Hawk]

What kind of insurance can you get for $300/month? Seriously?

I pay $846/month for Blue Cross/Blue Shield through our company plan.

I, too, have a hard time believing that story.

It was for him and his son, with a high deductible.  He says he got the cheapest available because they both are healthy and have never had to use it.  He was willing to take that risk. 

This really isn't that hard to believe, just google it and drop in on about a thousand forums with people bitchin about this very topic.  IT IS INDEED HAPPENING.

[Bo D]

It was for him and his son, with a high deductible.  He says he got the cheapest available because they both are healthy and have never had to use it.  He was willing to take that risk. 

This really isn't that hard to believe, just google it and drop in on about a thousand forums with people bitchin about this very topic.  IT IS INDEED HAPPENING.

"cheapest available"


That says it all right there.

I googled it before I even posted and I saw that Anthem is in trouble in several states for selling no-good policies.

[Anne]

My daughter paid $400 a month for her company insurance and it was much better than my medicare and BC/BS combined. It covered her family, husband, and 5 children. She just changed jobs so I don't know what her premium is now. My cousin who has stage 4 breast cancer checked out the health care exchanges and couldn't find anything cheaper and none that let her keep all her doctors. She kept her old insurance because she said it paid almost all her medical bills.

[me]

"cheapest available"


That says it all right there.

I googled it before I even posted and I saw that Anthem is in trouble in several states for selling no-good policies.

You know, that's strange since Anthem has always been one of the better insurers and, as a matter of fact, is who I have as well as several other people I know.  Of course that's not employee ins but that is also who carried my ex's employee ins and they were quite good.

[The Troll]

My daughter paid $400 a month for her company insurance and it was much better than my medicare and BC/BS combined. It covered her family, husband, and 5 children. She just changed jobs so I don't know what her premium is now. My cousin who has stage 4 breast cancer checked out the health care exchanges and couldn't find anything cheaper and none that let her keep all her doctors. She kept her old insurance because she said it paid almost all her medical bills.

  Annie, how much are you now paying for your insurance?  Huh?   Give us a break.   

[Anne]

Same as you.