The HCRA

[me]

High cost + high mortality does not = efficiency.

So those who can afford it come to the US because they want to experience our insufficient health care even though theirs might be better??????  That makes no sense and you know it.  They come here because of the better doctors and health care.  Sure there are some lousy hospitals but we also have some of the best here too.  Unfortunately you won't realize what I'm talking about since he extended the deadline for employer insurance until after the mid term elections but when you get your letter just suck it up and go with the flow.  See ya at the clinic with who knows what doctor.

[Henry Hawk]

Really?  Would you care to explain farm subsidies which artificially hold down consumer costs and (unfunded) prescription drug programs?

THAT is where they stepped out of bounds and began screwing things up.

[Exterminator]

So those who can afford it come to the US...

Please prove that people from developed countries routinely come to the U.S. for health care.  You can't because they don't.  If people in the U.S. have the money and more progressive treatment is available elsewhere, in Europe for example, they go there.  Go look up how many time Farrah Fawcett travelled to Germany for cancer treatments as an example.

Unfortunately you won't realize what I'm talking about since he extended the deadline for employer insurance until after the mid term elections but when you get your letter just suck it up and go with the flow.  See ya at the clinic with who knows what doctor.

Nope, because unlike the menial jobs you've worked, my employer understands that to attract the caliber of employees they want, they have to offer an excellent benefit package.

[me]

Please prove that people from developed countries routinely come to the U.S. for health care.  You can't because they don't.  If people in the U.S. have the money and more progressive treatment is available elsewhere, in Europe for example, they go there.  Go look up how many time Farrah Fawcett travelled to Germany for cancer treatments as an example.

Nope, because unlike the menial jobs you've worked, my employer understands that to attract the caliber of employees they want, they have to offer an excellent benefit package.

Farrah Fawcett went to Germany for unconventional treatments that are not approved here and it obviously didn't work unfortunately.  Bad example Ex, very bad example. 

We'll see about that insurance thing when the employer requirements kick in next year. 

[Exterminator]

Farrah Fawcett went to Germany for unconventional treatments that are not approved here and it obviously didn't work unfortunately.  Bad example Ex, very bad example.

No, it's not.  The fact remains that when rich people get cancer, their best options for treatment are not here in the U.S. but in Germany, a country with socialized health care.  Your denial of the obvious notwithstanding, our health care in this country sucks (take a look at infant mortality rates, for example) but at least it's expensive!

We'll see about that insurance thing when the employer requirements kick in next year. 

Our coverage is already compliant and won't change.

[Palehorse]

. . .Our coverage is already compliant and won't change.

Ours is the same, except for a 5% increase in premiums. 

[me]

No, it's not.  The fact remains that when rich people get cancer, their best options for treatment are not here in the U.S. but in Germany, a country with socialized health care.  Your denial of the obvious notwithstanding, our health care in this country sucks (take a look at infant mortality rates, for example) but at least it's expensive!

Our coverage is already compliant and won't change.  At least not until the extension expires.

Didn't read the disclaimer at the bottom did ya Ex?

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[Exterminator]

Didn't read the disclaimer at the bottom did ya Ex?

Who gives a fuck about the disclaimer at the bottom?  The reality is that no, the U.S. does not have the best health care in the world...not even close.  You suffer from what I refer to as 'my dog' syndrome in which you think your dog is better than every other dog simply because it's yours.  Do some research...our health care system is not that good despite being the most expensive in the world and your continuing to argue otherwise only highlights your ignorance on the subject.

[Exterminator]

Google: "u.s. health care comparison to other countries."

[Palehorse]

. . .and your continuing to argue otherwise only highlights your ignorance on the subject.

Amazing isn't it? 

[Palehorse]

[Palehorse]

[Palehorse]

[Palehorse]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/03/26/21-graphs-that-show-americas-health-care-prices-are-ludicrous/

[me]

Now do the research on why all these charts read as they do.  A blog?????  Really?????? A blog?????  I thought links with the word blog in them were to be disregarded.  Guess it depends on who posts it huh? 



On a side note, if he thinks all those advertisements telling people to discuss the HCRA tomorrow at their meal are gonna work he's hit his head.  That is the last thing people are gonna be talking about tomorrow so that's more money wasted by the government to try to control us and run our lives.