The HCRA

[Henry Hawk]

Rep. Kurt Schrader, a Democrat from Oregon, said that President Obama was "grossly misleading" on Obamacare.  "Very misleading," the Democratic congressman says of Obama's promise that you can keep your health care plan, if you like it.

"So I think the president saying you could stay with it and not being honest that a lot of these policies were going to get cancelled was grossly misleading to the American public and is causing added stress and added strife as we go through a really difficult time with health care."
Schrader also accused White House press secretary Jay Carney of "double talk" for also misleading on Obamacare.

[Exterminator]

Rep. Kurt Schrader, a Democrat from Oregon, said that President Obama was "grossly misleading" on Obamacare.  "Very misleading," the Democratic congressman says of Obama's promise that you can keep your health care plan, if you like it.

"So I think the president saying you could stay with it and not being honest that a lot of these policies were going to get cancelled was grossly misleading to the American public and is causing added stress and added strife as we go through a really difficult time with health care."
Schrader also accused White House press secretary Jay Carney of "double talk" for also misleading on Obamacare.

You left out this part (guess it didn't fit your agenda): "I think next year at the election time, people are going to want to know, was I able to sign up? And what is the shape of the benefit package I'm going to get and how much is it going to cost me, at the end of the day? I think this will, the sign-up period and problems and the horrendous problems that are going on right now will be way in the past."

[Henry Hawk]

You left out this part (guess it didn't fit your agenda): "I think next year at the election time, people are going to want to know, was I able to sign up? And what is the shape of the benefit package I'm going to get and how much is it going to cost me, at the end of the day? I think this will, the sign-up period and problems and the horrendous problems that are going on right now will be way in the past."

Well that was just a speculation, trying to defend something he has NO IDEA how it is going to turn out.  Why should we believe it is going to get better?  It is about as wrong as wrong can be right now.  Just as many republicans SAID IT WOULD BE.

[Henry Hawk]

Even Bill Clinton knows the potus screwed up...

[me]

Imagine that, two rich people from Illinois hunting for sport, one has the approval of the liberals and the other is hated by them for hunting for sport and being rich.  One went hunting with his own money and the other went hunting on taxpayer money.  One worked his way to the top and the other BS'ed his way to the top.  Bet ya can't guess which one the liberals approve of.   

No they don't lie do they? 

Scumbag #2: Jimmy John Liautaud who, if he were forced to treat his employees fairly, might not be able to take as many trips  in which the fat fuck kills endangered species for sport.  Anyone who would frequent his establishments knowing that the money they spend there contributes to this is also a scumbag who himself is worthy of being hunted down and killed.  At the very least, I would spit in the face of any such person.

[Locutus]

Scumbag #2: Jimmy John Liautaud who, if he were forced to treat his employees fairly, might not be able to take as many trips  in which the fat fuck kills endangered species for sport.  Anyone who would frequent his establishments knowing that the money they spend there contributes to this is also a scumbag who himself is worthy of being hunted down and killed.  At the very least, I would spit in the face of any such person.

Sorry, HH.  It looks like Ex is right.  There are more than a few images like that around with a copyright notice that belongs to the Safari group he uses. 

I never knew he was into that kind of shit, but thanks to Ex and a little research, I do now. 

[Locutus]

Even Bill Clinton knows the potus screwed up...

Now as to this little gem, wouldn't that require legislation in order to allow that?  Is that something that Obama can even do since it's the insurance companies themselves that are canceling these sub-par policies?

[Henry Hawk]

Sorry, HH.  It looks like Ex is right.  There are more than a few images like that around with a copyright notice that belongs to the Safari group he uses. 

I never knew he was into that kind of shit, but thanks to Ex and a little research, I do now. 

Locutus, don't get me wrong, I am not defending the dirtbag for his hunting skills.  I asked a question.  I too googled it and found nothing to defend him on this....

I am defending his entreprenuership.  Like him or not, he built a great empire of tasty sandwiches.

[Henry Hawk]

Now as to this little gem, wouldn't that require legislation in order to allow that?  Is that something that Obama can even do since it's the insurance companies themselves that are canceling these sub-par policies?

Yeah, I thought the same thing too....unless he drops the whole bill, which he will never do...I don't think there is much he can do.

[Locutus]

I am defending his entreprenuership.  Like him or not, he built a great empire of tasty sandwiches.

You like his sandwiches?  I thought they sucked, and wasn't going to go back simply because of that.  I guess I'm spoiled by the numerous mom and pop delis that we have here in South Florida that I'm spoiled a bit when it comes to good sandwiches. 

[Henry Hawk]

You like his sandwiches?  I thought they sucked, and wasn't going to go back simply because of that.  I guess I'm spoiled by the numerous mom and pop delis that we have here in South Florida that I'm spoiled a bit when it comes to good sandwiches. 

They are not my favorite, but I have had some at a lunch & learn that was pretty good.  There was adeli a block down from where I work that was a mom & pop place that had the best sandwiches around.  It recently closed down though.

[me]

Now as to this little gem, wouldn't that require legislation in order to allow that?  Is that something that Obama can even do since it's the insurance companies themselves that are canceling these sub-par policies?

Not all of those policies are sub-par and most replacement policies are costing more with a higher deductible and do not include the doctor of choice.  Problem is the ones that are getting signed up are qualifying as medicaid and subsidized.  Most who don't qualify for the subsidizes are opting to pay the fine and take their chances because it is less costly for them in the long run. 

[Exterminator]

Imagine that, two rich people from Illinois hunting for sport, one has the approval of the liberals and the other is hated by them for hunting for sport and being rich.  One went hunting with his own money and the other went hunting on taxpayer money.  One worked his way to the top and the other BS'ed his way to the top.  Bet ya can't guess which one the liberals approve of.

Yeah, uh, the picture of Obama is clearly photoshopped but are you seriously equating deer hunting (which isn't my thing but I have no real moral objection to) to slaughtering endangered elephants?

[Exterminator]

Not all of those policies are sub-par and most replacement policies are costing more with a higher deductible and do not include the doctor of choice.

This has already proven to be a lie.

[me]

This has already proven to be a lie.

Tell that to my friend who has MS, is paying for tri-care premium, and was told she would have to go to the VA doctors now rather than her doctor of choice.  She got her letter 2 weeks ago.