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Started by Palehorse, December 31, 2012, 04:29:03 PM

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Palehorse

And of course, as I predicted back when these miscreants in congress created the fiscal cliff over a year ago, we are going over it in just a little short of 8 hours. Millions will lose their unemployment benefits, taxes go up 2% on everybody, and congress gets a pay raise!

No matter how you say it, it will NEVER penetrate the propaganda of the political machines out there, that are responsible for blinding millions of Americans, and conning them into actually believing that the lamb is bleeding them dry while the wolves lap at their throats! It has taken decades of conditioning to turn those blind people into the hapless, and unquestioning lemmings that they are today; and no one's eloquence or word smithing is going to be capable of positively influencing or changing this fact within the course of 4 years, much less even a decade.

What will change their blind acceptance is nothing short of absolute collapse of our economic and social infrastructure; and then it will be too late to do anything short of domestic warfare to turn the tide. Even then, the abject conditions driven by the collapse of infrastructure will leave this country globally exposed to takeover; increasing the likelihood of extinction of the nation as a whole. And all for the furtherance of the governmental pandering to the 1%.

During these economically trying times, when an ever increasing portion of our citizens continue to struggle to survive, physically as well as financially, and our governments at the state, local, and federal levels find themselves doing the same, instead of making the hard choices as each citizen is forced to do, our government increasingly is turning on the lifeblood of its existence; the financial middle class and the poor.   

In government's greed to maintain its status quo, it continues to pander to the entities with the deepest pockets, while digging deeper into the pockets that are the shallowest. "We" are the low hanging fruit, and those branches are now all but barren.

Instead of increasing the tax rates on the top 1%, that represent 40% of the entire nation's wealth, our government targets vital programs, (collectively referred to as "social safety nets"), that were undertaken decades ago in order to assure the future of this nation and improve the quality of life of those amongst us who can least afford the benefits these programs provide.

Instead of implementing legislation regulating health insurance companies and reining in their annual billion dollar profit levels on the shoulders of the infirm, we pass legislation that not only supports the continuing abuse, but supports abject premium increases across the country.

Instead of working to create legislation that empowers the voice of the individual citizen, and assures their constitutional rights, we render legal decisions that extend those very same rights and voice to faceless, soulless entities (corporations); and at the same time fail to hold them accountable toward conducting their operations and business practices within those very same rights. (As each individual citizen is REQUIRED to do). Enabling the voice (political contribution level) of the corporation to drown out the voice of the citizen; even in situations wherein those citizens are grouped into large "like minded" sectors! (Just how many "individuals" do you think it would take to equal the political contributions of just ONE corporation?) Even as those very same corporations take their operations out of the country!

Instead of implementing cuts within the plethora of non-critical governmental funding, programs, and nefarious grants, our government FIRST seeks to slit the throat of the least amongst us, in order to pander to the top 1% and avoid the prolific, public squalling the bursting revenue streams of that 1% can afford to buy! Cuts in education, infrastructure, medicare/medicaid, social security, domestic military, and alternative energy sourcing ( to name a few) are nothing short of dooming this nation to a "third world status" within the global environment, and is at a minimum, selling out the collective future of the majority for the sake of the minority! (Can you say "General Motors" or "Chrysler"?)

It seems "we the people" refers only to the top 1% within a modern interpretation of the phrase!

When are these miscreants we've installed in congress going to realize that the fiscal cliff is the issue here and NOT their political ideology?

You want cuts? How about all you ass-hats give up your cadillac health-care plan and sign on with Anthem's Blue Card program? How about YOU start paying $389.00 a month for your healthcare plan like the rest of the citizens in this country, and be subjected to a 4000 dollar deductible with a maximum out of pocket of 10k to begin receiving 80% coverage?

How about we eliminate your pension plans, (as you have allowed corporate America to do to us), and when your ass gets voted out of office your benefits stop at once?

That ought to obtain a few billion dollar cut!

You have Jacked around for another 4 weeks before your "holiday break" and sent us on a header over that cliff. When you get back don't be surprised to find your days numbered and a lot of us camped out at your workplace.

You want cuts? Start in your own home you idiots. Don't eat the horse that pulls the plow!

And another thing. Do you really need all those congressional aides and personal assistants? NO! Let's put all of them onto the unemployment roles immediately, and then YOU will be required to do your own research, answer the calls and requests of your constituency, and do some actual work for the money you are paid.

How about each one of you take a 30% pay cut like your policies enacted over the last couple of decades has forced upon the rest of us? How about your only retirement source being a 401k that the American public does NOT contribute to until after you've been in congress for 5 or more years, and then only at a less than 5% match for every dollar you contribute from your pay checks yourselves?

Oh, and no more "congressional vehicles" either. You want a car and driver, then you had better be prepared to shell out the money for it. No taking it home either unless you pay the high deductible required to insure that vehicle. And while we're at it you are going to have to pay a "gas surcharge" for use of the vehicle and taking it home.

Stamps? Pay for them like we do.

No more "lunch meetings" either. It's okay to do that but we aren't paying for that shit. (And say goodbye to that tax deduction).

Oh, and those junket thingies you are so fond of taking; buh-bye. You want to go to Israel on a fact finding mission and frolic naked in the sea? Go ahead! But you had better take vacation time and pay for everything out of your own pocket.

And while we're talking about vacations. Heres the new eligibility scale:

1 year or less - NO days
2 to 5 years - 5 Days
5 -10 years - 10 days
10 years and above - 15 days

No more seasonal breaks either. Congress is in session each and every day of the year except for those federal holidays already in place and that are recognized by corporate America. You will report to work every single day.

Absentee Policy

Each day of work missed results in the accrual of 8 points. Partial days missed = 5 points

24 points = written warning
32 points = censure
40 points = performance improvement plan
48 points = termination and a mandatory special election to fill your seat.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

duke jupiter

Quote from: Palehorse on December 31, 2012, 04:29:03 PM
And of course, as I predicted back when these miscreants in congress created the fiscal cliff over a year ago, we are going over it in just a little short of 8 hours. Millions will lose their unemployment benefits, taxes go up 2% on everybody, and congress gets a pay raise!

No matter how you say it, it will NEVER penetrate the propaganda of the political machines out there, that are responsible for blinding millions of Americans, and conning them into actually believing that the lamb is bleeding them dry while the wolves lap at their throats! It has taken decades of conditioning to turn those blind people into the hapless, and unquestioning lemmings that they are today; and no one's eloquence or word smithing is going to be capable of positively influencing or changing this fact within the course of 4 years, much less even a decade.

What will change their blind acceptance is nothing short of absolute collapse of our economic and social infrastructure; and then it will be too late to do anything short of domestic warfare to turn the tide. Even then, the abject conditions driven by the collapse of infrastructure will leave this country globally exposed to takeover; increasing the likelihood of extinction of the nation as a whole. And all for the furtherance of the governmental pandering to the 1%.

During these economically trying times, when an ever increasing portion of our citizens continue to struggle to survive, physically as well as financially, and our governments at the state, local, and federal levels find themselves doing the same, instead of making the hard choices as each citizen is forced to do, our government increasingly is turning on the lifeblood of its existence; the financial middle class and the poor.   

In government's greed to maintain its status quo, it continues to pander to the entities with the deepest pockets, while digging deeper into the pockets that are the shallowest. "We" are the low hanging fruit, and those branches are now all but barren.

Instead of increasing the tax rates on the top 1%, that represent 40% of the entire nation's wealth, our government targets vital programs, (collectively referred to as "social safety nets"), that were undertaken decades ago in order to assure the future of this nation and improve the quality of life of those amongst us who can least afford the benefits these programs provide.

Instead of implementing legislation regulating health insurance companies and reining in their annual billion dollar profit levels on the shoulders of the infirm, we pass legislation that not only supports the continuing abuse, but supports abject premium increases across the country.

Instead of working to create legislation that empowers the voice of the individual citizen, and assures their constitutional rights, we render legal decisions that extend those very same rights and voice to faceless, soulless entities (corporations); and at the same time fail to hold them accountable toward conducting their operations and business practices within those very same rights. (As each individual citizen is REQUIRED to do). Enabling the voice (political contribution level) of the corporation to drown out the voice of the citizen; even in situations wherein those citizens are grouped into large "like minded" sectors! (Just how many "individuals" do you think it would take to equal the political contributions of just ONE corporation?) Even as those very same corporations take their operations out of the country!

Instead of implementing cuts within the plethora of non-critical governmental funding, programs, and nefarious grants, our government FIRST seeks to slit the throat of the least amongst us, in order to pander to the top 1% and avoid the prolific, public squalling the bursting revenue streams of that 1% can afford to buy! Cuts in education, infrastructure, medicare/medicaid, social security, domestic military, and alternative energy sourcing ( to name a few) are nothing short of dooming this nation to a "third world status" within the global environment, and is at a minimum, selling out the collective future of the majority for the sake of the minority! (Can you say "General Motors" or "Chrysler"?)

It seems "we the people" refers only to the top 1% within a modern interpretation of the phrase!

When are these miscreants we've installed in congress going to realize that the fiscal cliff is the issue here and NOT their political ideology?

You want cuts? How about all you ass-hats give up your cadillac health-care plan and sign on with Anthem's Blue Card program? How about YOU start paying $389.00 a month for your healthcare plan like the rest of the citizens in this country, and be subjected to a 4000 dollar deductible with a maximum out of pocket of 10k to begin receiving 80% coverage?

How about we eliminate your pension plans, (as you have allowed corporate America to do to us), and when your ass gets voted out of office your benefits stop at once?

That ought to obtain a few billion dollar cut!

You have Jacked around for another 4 weeks before your "holiday break" and sent us on a header over that cliff. When you get back don't be surprised to find your days numbered and a lot of us camped out at your workplace.

You want cuts? Start in your own home you idiots. Don't eat the horse that pulls the plow!

And another thing. Do you really need all those congressional aides and personal assistants? NO! Let's put all of them onto the unemployment roles immediately, and then YOU will be required to do your own research, answer the calls and requests of your constituency, and do some actual work for the money you are paid.

How about each one of you take a 30% pay cut like your policies enacted over the last couple of decades has forced upon the rest of us? How about your only retirement source being a 401k that the American public does NOT contribute to until after you've been in congress for 5 or more years, and then only at a less than 5% match for every dollar you contribute from your pay checks yourselves?

Oh, and no more "congressional vehicles" either. You want a car and driver, then you had better be prepared to shell out the money for it. No taking it home either unless you pay the high deductible required to insure that vehicle. And while we're at it you are going to have to pay a "gas surcharge" for use of the vehicle and taking it home.

Stamps? Pay for them like we do.

No more "lunch meetings" either. It's okay to do that but we aren't paying for that shit. (And say goodbye to that tax deduction).

Oh, and those junket thingies you are so fond of taking; buh-bye. You want to go to Israel on a fact finding mission and frolic naked in the sea? Go ahead! But you had better take vacation time and pay for everything out of your own pocket.

And while we're talking about vacations. Heres the new eligibility scale:

1 year or less - NO days
2 to 5 years - 5 Days
5 -10 years - 10 days
10 years and above - 15 days

No more seasonal breaks either. Congress is in session each and every day of the year except for those federal holidays already in place and that are recognized by corporate America. You will report to work every single day.

Absentee Policy

Each day of work missed results in the accrual of 8 points. Partial days missed = 5 points

24 points = written warning
32 points = censure
40 points = performance improvement plan
48 points = termination and a mandatory special election to fill your seat.


Great post.

Best regards,
Duke (can you say "fire their arses---all of 'em) Jupiter
Watch out for Goofy!

Palehorse

Quote from: duke jupiter on December 31, 2012, 05:18:31 PM

Great post.

Best regards,
Duke (can you say "fire their arses---all of 'em) Jupiter

Thank you Duke Jupiter, and  :welcome2: :welcome: aboard. Nice to have you here!  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

Maybe the they should have made the penalty for not fixing things and having a budget that the President and every federal government worker on down to the janitors (except the military) not be paid beginning Jan 1 until they get their job done. That might have been a better choice than to cut things that didn't impact the people who make the laws.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

Quote from: Anne on December 31, 2012, 08:43:39 PM
Maybe the they should have made the penalty for not fixing things and having a budget that the President and every federal government worker on down to the janitors (except the military) not be paid beginning Jan 1 until they get their job done. That might have been a better choice than to cut things that didn't impact the people who make the laws.

:yes:
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"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Well they've shoved us over the cliff, at least until tomorrow; wherein a last second effort to pass legislation to prevent 1/2 of us from going over is scheduled to be put to a vote, and the other half being delayed for 2 months.

And here we go again with the debt ceiling fiasco; yet another circus side-show that will all but assure this nations credit rating gets pounded yet again, and that 2 month delay ends up pushing the other half over the cliff.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Every single last member of congress needs to be FIRED!  :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

UPDATE:

Eric Cantor has come out against the current proposal passed by the Senate in an overwhelming majority, and it would appear that the republican majority House will, once again, say "NO" and shove us all over the cliff.

(Now there a friggin surprise!  :rolleyes::mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE FIRED AND TRIED FOR TREASON!

Here's a link to the bill if you want to read it:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/01/01/american.taxpayer.relief.act.pdf?hpt=hp_t1
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

RC

Do you want all Congress or just the republican members tried for treason?

Locutus

Quote from: RC on January 01, 2013, 07:15:30 PM
Do you want all Congress or just the republican members tried for treason?

My opinion is all of them RC.  If there's an (I) for incumbent by your name on the ballot, out you go!  This is the most dysfunctional Congress in recent history.  It's time for fresh faces across the board as far as I'm concerned.   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: RC on January 01, 2013, 07:15:30 PM
Do you want all Congress or just the republican members tried for treason?


  I don't want to fire all of congress.  Just the Tea Party nuts and the people who signed Grover Norquist "Pledge"  If we got all new (lawyers*) in we would have bigger cluster f#$K than we have now.   :rant:

  * Lawyers seem to be the only people we get for politicians.   :rant:  Lawyers are the last people we want to make laws that they can make money on they they get out of office.   :yes:

Palehorse

And at the very last possible second, the house passes the Senate's bill to avert the fiscal cliff . . . in the short term.

Now the debt ceiling and the rest of the fiscal cliff has to be dealt with, and I expect lots of drama and propaganda to be forthcoming in the the next 2-3 months, and the republicans try to heal their bruised meat curtains. . .  :rolleyes: :mad: :mad: :mad:

85 republicans crossed the line and went against their "oath" to Grover. And they're already spinning it.  :liar2:

I look for Boner boy to be ousted in favor of Cantor as speaker, and then the shit will really start flying. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Get ready to pay more taxes........ :yes:

I thought that was a promise he made, that the middle class will NOT see their taxes go up........well, they are going up.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 02, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
Get ready to pay more taxes........ :yes:

I thought that was a promise he made, that the middle class will NOT see their taxes go up........well, they are going up.

No, they aren't.  The expiration of the temporary Social Security tax reduction (that Obama gave you in the first place) is not an increase in taxes.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on January 02, 2013, 11:17:12 AM
No, they aren't.  The expiration of the temporary Social Security tax reduction (that Obama gave you in the first place) is not an increase in taxes.

I am having MORE money taken OUT of my paycheck.  Call it what you will.......It most certainly IS a tax increase.  Why did Obama do it in the first place?  The middle class is hurting just as much now as they were then.  It is all BS.  He does not give a rats ass about YOU or about ME.  All he wants is MORE money to spend for HIS agenda.

btw, it is ALL official now.....this is NO longer the "Bush economy" it is all the Obama econmy.  I'm all ready for an economic BOOM!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 02, 2013, 11:25:06 AM
I am having MORE money taken OUT of my paycheck.  Call it what you will.......It most certainly IS a tax increase.  Why did Obama do it in the first place?  The middle class is hurting just as much now as they were then.  It is all BS.  He does not give a rats ass about YOU or about ME.  All he wants is MORE money to spend for HIS agenda.

Well, since you're blaming this on Obama, how about you provide us with a list of Republicans who supported extending this temporary measure?

Quotebtw, it is ALL official now.....this is NO longer the "Bush economy" it is all the Obama econmy.  I'm all ready for an economic BOOM!

Didn't your personal economy already go boom and didn't that happen right in the middle of Bush's tenure and long before you could reasonably blame it on the mortgage crisis?  Things that make you go hmmm...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.