Another East Coast Mass Shooting Incident

[Locutus]

If Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this tragedy before it started.

[The Troll]

If Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this tragedy before it started.

  I don't know what you are talking about, that almost sounds like something Henry would say. 

   Maybe he had got the rifle and she tried to stop him and to get his way he shot her in the face three times.  Please explain what you just said.   

[Locutus]

  I don't know what you are talking about, that almost sounds like something Henry would say. 

   Maybe he had got the rifle and she tried to stop him and to get his way he shot her in the face three times.  Please explain what you just said.   

I think it was sarcasm.  Lanza's mother was found shot in her bed while she slept, all the while being a gun collector and preparing for doomsday.  In the end, she fell victim to her own guns, and at the hands of her own son. 

Adam shot his mother in the face that day, several times, while she laid in bed, before stealing her three guns, and heading to the school. It appears as though Nancy may have been asleep when she was shot dead.


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[The Troll]

I think it was sarcasm.  Lanza's mother was found shot in her bed while she slept, all the while being a gun collector and preparing for doomsday.  In the end, she fell victim to her own guns, and at the hands of her own son. 

Adam shot his mother in the face that day, several times, while she laid in bed, before stealing her three guns, and heading to the school. It appears as though Nancy may have been asleep when she was shot dead.


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  What is so bad, nothing could have been done at this time to have prevented him from hurting anyone.  He hadn't broke a law and being crazy in against the law.  He was smart enough and crazy enough to have done something like this without a gun.   

  It is well know that a gallon of gasoline has more explosive power that a pound of gun powder.  Fuel oil and fertilizer has quite a bit more power than gasoline alone. 

[Henry Hawk]

I think it was sarcasm. 

[Anne]

Now they are bring in a geneticist. I wondered if they would do that.

[Locutus]

Now they are bring in a geneticist. I wondered if they would do that.

If they lack any other clues as to motive, that's probably as good a place to start as any. 

[The Troll]

  I think they should do more about mental illness than gun control.   

  Not all of the mass atemps at mass murder was a gun.  There was gasoline in the subway, bomb in Time square, kersin and fertulize in Oklhoma and there was guns.      

  But behind it all there was a crazy nut, someone out of his freaking mind who wants to take someone to hell with him.  Also it has been all men.  Not one of the mass killer have been men.  Crazy women like to use pistols and poison. 

  No laws is going to keep some suicidal manic who is willing to die to keep them from kill anyone.    A car doing 100 miles per hour into a crowd will do the same thing.   

[Palehorse]

I've got mine so am not worried, but the rest of you; when Anarchy reigns and you are victimized by the laws they are readying to impose/re-impose upon those who already abide by the law, remember this knee-jerk moment on BOTH sides of the aisle! 

Mark my words, all these laws will do is strengthen the power and influence of those who do not abide by the law today.

[Henry Hawk]

I've got mine so am not worried, but the rest of you; when Anarchy reigns and you are victimized by the laws they are readying to impose/re-impose upon those who already abide by the law, remember this knee-jerk moment on BOTH sides of the aisle! 

Mark my words, all these laws will do is strengthen the power and influence of those who do not abide by the law today.

yep!

[The Troll]

  First the King didn't want the peasants to have daggers.  Then the King didn't want them to have a sword.  Then he didn't want the peasants to have bows and arrows.  Then he didn't want the peasants to have cross bows.  Why?  Because King (the Elite) didn't want the peasants to have any defense against his Knights (police) so he could continue to oppress them.   

  Now we have the well armed guarded Super Rich and the rich who live in the armed guarded apartments and arm guarded gated communities, working in arm guarded locations.  So taking our (peasants) guns will enable the Elite Super Rich (Republican/Tea Party) to continuing the oppression of us, the American people.   

                                                        The only way they are getting my gun is from my cold dead hand. 

                                                               I'll bury them for later use.   

[Locutus]

Michael fuckin' Savage put this up on his Facebook page in response to the shooting at Sandy Hook.

[me]

  First the King didn't want the peasants to have daggers.  Then the King didn't want them to have a sword.  Then he didn't want the peasants to have bows and arrows.  Then he didn't want the peasants to have cross bows.  Why?  Because King (the Elite) didn't want the peasants to have any defense against his Knights (police) so he could continue to oppress them.   

  Now we have the well armed guarded Super Rich and the rich who live in the armed guarded apartments and arm guarded gated communities, working in arm guarded locations.  So taking our (peasants) guns will enable the Elite Super Rich (Republican/Tea Party) to continuing the oppression of us, the American people.   

                                                        The only way they are getting my gun is from my cold dead hand. 

                                                               I'll bury them for later use.   

Um, I think you'd better think again about who's asking for more gun control Troll. 

[me]

Obama urges Americans to keep up pressure for tighter gun control
WASHINGTON | Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:05pm EST

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama urged Americans on Friday to keep up the pressure on lawmakers to tighten gun regulations as a result of the mass shooting of 26 people in Newtown, Connecticut, a week ago.

Obama issued a videotaped response to the several hundred thousand people who have signed a petition posted on the White House website calling for toughened gun laws in response to the shooting, in which 20 school children and six adults were killed at a Newtown school.

"I need your help," Obama said in the video. "If we're going to succeed, it's going to take a sustained effort from mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, law enforcement and responsible gun owners, organizing, speaking up, calling their members of Congress as many times as it takes, standing up and saying 'Enough' on behalf of all our kids."

Obama has called for Congress to approve a ban on the sale in the United States of military-style assault weapons, a ban on the sale of high-capacity ammunition clips, and to ensure everyone gets a background check before they buy a gun, even if the purchase takes place at an open-air gun show currently exempt from such requirements.

For years Americans have been reluctant to impose greater restrictions on gun purchases, but the Newtown shooting has changed many minds and Obama is seeking to take advantage of the shift in attitude.

He has directed Vice President Joe Biden and a team of Cabinet officials to offer concrete proposals by next month on how to tighten gun laws and improve Americans' access to mental healthcare, strengthen school safety and address a culture that glorifies guns and violence.

Obama said he would push for these proposals early next year.

"You've started something and now I ask you to keep at it," he said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/21/us-usa-shooting-obama-idUSBRE8BK0F120121221

[me]

Washington: Several Democratic lawmakers called for a new push for US gun restrictions on Sunday, including a ban on military-style assault weapons, in the wake of the Connecticut massacre in which 20 children and six adults were gunned down in a school.

Democratic Senator Diane Feinstein, the author of an assault-weapons ban that lapsed in 2004, said she would introduce new legislation this week. Senator Dick Durbin, the chamber's No. 2 Democrat, said lawmakers would hold hearings on gun control, and several others said they would devote new attention to the long-ignored issue.

"I think we could be at a tipping point ... where we might get something done," Senator Charles Schumer, another top Senate Democrat, said on CBS's "Face the Nation."


Any effort to restrict access to high-powered weapons is likely to face fierce opposition from many Republicans in Congress who say restrictions violate the US Constitution's right to bear arms.

Gun control has been a low priority for most US politicians due to the widespread popularity of guns in America and the clout of the pro-gun National Rifle Association. Most Republicans and many Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, are firm allies of the group.

Opinion polls have found Americans to be divided on the issue even after other high-profile shooting incidents.

US lawmakers have not approved a major new gun law since 1994.

Feinstein said her planned legislation would outlaw the high-capacity magazines and military-style assault rifles that have factored in many recent mass shootings, including Friday's massacre in Newtown, Connecticut. People who own such weapons now would not be required to give them up, Feinstein said.

She said she would introduce her bill in the Democratic-controlled Senate soon, and a companion bill would be introduced in the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

Connecticut's Democratic governor and two senators, one a Democrat and one an independent, voiced support for an assault-weapons ban or restrictions on high-capacity magazines.

'An armed people'

A Republican lawmaker signaled ongoing opposition to gun control.

Asked on "Fox News Sunday" why Americans would need to own semi-automatic weapons, Republican Representative Louie Gohmert said, "Well, for the reason George Washington said: a free people should be an armed people. It ensures against the tyranny of the government, if they know that the biggest army is the American people."

Gohmert added, "Once you start drawing the line, where do you stop? ... Gun laws don't work."

President Barack Obama campaigned on gun control in 2008, but he has expanded gun rights in his first four years in office, signing legislation that would allow people to carry weapons on Amtrak trains and in national parks.

He tearfully called for "meaningful action" to prevent further tragedies on Friday, but the White House has declined to say what measures he would support.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an outspoken gun-control advocate, said Obama will have to make the issue a priority to get any new laws enacted.

"It's time for the president, I think, to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do - not go to Congress and say, 'What do you guys want to do?' This should be his number one agenda," Bloomberg said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy, who has met with families of the victims of Friday's massacre, spoke of the need for new gun control steps.

"These are assault weapons. You don't hunt deer with these things. And I think that's the question that a lot of people are going to have to resolve their own minds: Where should this line get drawn?" Malloy added.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/democrats-vow-push-for-gun-control-measures-in-us-congress-306151