Applebee's, Papa John’s & Darden Restaurants threaten staff cuts

[Exterminator]

Most of those places are franchises owned by small business people who pay a healthy chunk of money for the franchise I might add.  This store in Anderson for instance may be a franchise store owned by someone local rather than a company store.  Don't know about now but a couple of the McDonald's here were owned by someone in Muncie at one time.

Sorry but I don't really consider franchise owners business people so much as investors.  It doesn't really take a lot of business acumen to follow someone else's plan that details everything from how your store looks to how to schedule employees to where to buy your supplies.  People like those who started something like Bazbeaux on the other hand, them I consider business people.

[The Troll]

So go ahead and quit patronizing the ones you're talking about and hasten their demise so the people who work there can go on unemployment.  While you're at it quit going to Kroger and Marsh too.  And then there's Meier too.  Come to think of it Taco Bell, Wendy's, and McDonalds should be added to the list while your at it and then there's Arby's.  Hell just quit patronizing them all since all are guilty and some have been doing it for years.

  You forgot one Big Headed Girl.  The worse of them all, Walmart.  just buy your pizza at ART's and the money stays in Anderson.    

[followsthewolf]

Sorry but I don't really consider franchise owners business people so much as investors.  It doesn't really take a lot of business acumen to follow someone else's plan that details everything from how your store looks to how to schedule employees to where to buy your supplies.  People like those who started something like Bazbeaux on the other hand, them I consider business people.

What he said.

[Henry Hawk]

Sorry but I don't really consider franchise owners business people so much as investors.  It doesn't really take a lot of business acumen to follow someone else's plan that details everything from how your store looks to how to schedule employees to where to buy your supplies.  People like those who started something like Bazbeaux on the other hand, them I consider business people.

I have a friend who is making a living by owning two sub-ways....he works in both of them, very hard.

[Exterminator]

I have a friend who is making a living by owning two sub-ways....he works in both of them, very hard.

Still doesn't make him a businessman, per se.

[Henry Hawk]

Still doesn't make him a businessman, per se.

what difference does it really make.  He is making decisions on how to best run his business....he hires, he fires, he buys.....he runs two business'....I would call him a businessman.

[The Troll]

what difference does it really make.  He is making decisions on how to best run his business....he hires, he fires, he buys.....he runs two business'....I would call him a businessman.

  But, who really is in control of the business?  Why it's Subway.  They control the quality, they control the amount of material, he has to buy all of the materials napkins, straws and ect from them, they control the amount of fees he has to pay to them, they control the way the business looks and sends in inspectors to check the books and if the business is ran to their standards.   

  Your friend is a glorified manager with his money on the line.     If he doesn't toe the corporate line he's out of business and the money he paid for the franchise is gone.   

  If you don't believe me just check back to Elmo Flatt when the Colonel Sanders found out that Elmo wasn't using his Kentucky Fried flour to bread the chicken.    He lost the franchise.

  Sure he works off his ass, because he's is not really the boss.     It's that old story of the carrot and the stick that corporations put out to sucker people in.      Henry your Republicans has got us into a corporate controlled world.   

[Henry Hawk]

  But, who really is in control of the business?  Why it's Subway.  They control the quality, they control the amount of material, he has to buy all of the materials napkins, straws and ect from them, they control the amount of fees he has to pay to them, they control the way the business looks and sends in inspectors to check the books and if the business is ran to their standards.   

  Your friend is a glorified manager with his money on the line.     If he doesn't toe the corporate line he's out of business and the money he paid for the franchise is gone.   

  If you don't believe me just check back to Elmo Flatt when the Colonel Sanders found out that Elmo wasn't using his Kentucky Fried flour to bread the chicken.    He lost the franchise.

  Sure he works off his ass, because he's is not really the boss.     It's that old story of the carrot and the stick that corporations put out to sucker people in.      Henry your Republicans has got us into a corporate controlled world.   

You see Troll, the whole point is, that HE decided, on his own accord, to go into business by buying into a franchise.  Sure, he could have started his own sub shop....made up his own rules and sandwiches.  He chose to work for a company that will do his advertising, and have a game plan already set-up.  Nobody put a gun to his head.   He is playing by Subways rules....

the bottom line is......he IS a businessman.  Now, and I am only being hypothetical here, if this man had 50 full-time employees, he would NOW have to supply insurance for them or pay a penalty to the IRS.

[The Troll]

You see Troll, the whole point is, that HE decided, on his own accord, to go into business by buying into a franchise.  Sure, he could have started his own sub shop....made up his own rules and sandwiches.  He chose to work for a company that will do his advertising, and have a game plan already set-up.  Nobody put a gun to his head.   He is playing by Subways rules....

the bottom line is......he IS a businessman.  Now, and I am only being hypothetical here, if this man had 50 full-time employees, he would NOW have to supply insurance for them or pay a penalty to the IRS.

  If everybody was made to raise their prices, like I am quite sure they will.  Problem is solved.     Just take your head out of your ass and step back and think.     For when your head is up your ass you can't see the real light.  :eyes:

  And Henry knowing you, you really don't give a damn if your "friend" really makes it or not.     That how real Repubs think.   

[Exterminator]

what difference does it really make.  He is making decisions on how to best run his business....he hires, he fires, he buys.....he runs two business'....I would call him a businessman.

Not that I had any doubts after the Romney debacle but your definition of businessman and mine differ completely.

[Henry Hawk]

Not that I had any doubts after the Romney debacle but your definition of businessman and mine differ completely.

well, there are different degrees of businessmen....You got guys like Gates and Joe the Plumber.  Bill probably couldn't run a plumming business as well as Joe.......and Joe probably couldn't run Microsoft.  Both are businessmen.

[me]

Ya know those people invest a whole lot of money into those franchises and work terribly hard to keep them going.  On the other hand there are people who purchase stocks and do nothing for their money except watch the stock market from their easy chair.  Those people who purchase franchises have to know what they are doing to make the business work therefore you have to be a business person to make it successful even though it's a franchise.  The franchise owners also set their own pay scale and hours and do not follow any company rules so if they choose to use full time employees and pay insurance that is up to them.  The company just say's what suppliers you have to use and what food you are to serve.  The company stores may go part time and not pay ins. but that doesn't apply to the franchise stores.    And you say it is I who knows nothing about business? 

[Exterminator]

Those people who purchase franchises have to know what they are doing to make the business work therefore you have to be a business person to make it successful even though it's a franchise.

Not even close; it's all about location.  If you have a location that promotes good traffic and you follow the plan you are given, you will make money.  A monkey could do it.

And you say it is I who knows nothing about business?

Yes, and we're right!  You don't have a clue.

[me]

Not even close; it's all about location.  If you have a location that promotes good traffic and you follow the plan you are given, you will make money.  A monkey could do it.

Yes, and we're right!  You don't have a clue.

Look dude it is a business and all you are furnished is the people you get your supplies from you still have to make it work.  If you don't operate it right it doesn't matter if you are in a high traffic area with a high demand for your product or the north 40 it won't make it. 

[Exterminator]

Look dude it is a business...

To you, I'm sure it does seem like a real business.