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Palehorse

#30
November 20, 2012, 12:49:01 AM
"My clients have instructed to issue the following comment and then ask that they be left alone," Cable wrote in an email sent to media members at midnight Tuesday.

"Monserrate Shirley and Mark Leonard watched in bewilderment the news report that the authorities are now treating the investigation as a criminal investigation as well as a causation search.@The two remain horrified at the tragic events, destruction, and loss of lives that occurred and have been cooperating with the authorities since their return to Indianapolis over the weekend," Cable's statement read. "They have cooperated fully with various investigators and agencies on multiple occasions and have answered each and every question including speculation as to whether they may have been targeted by anyone.@They wish for the causation of this horrific and saddening tragedy to be determined.

"The speculation of social media has centered on various aspects of their lives targeting them in the investigation.@Throughout the days since that night the two have been pursued by media constantly requesting interviews as to how they are doing, and how they feel.@Assumptions by everyone have had a field day at their expense.@They continue to cooperate with the authorities and will have no further comments."@

Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry announced during a press conference with Mayor Greg Ballard and Indianapolis Department of Homeland Security Director Gary Coons that he was launching a criminal homicide investigation into the explosion.

"While the fire investigation has been progressing, there has been a parallel investigation, not solely focusing on the cause of the explosion but focusing on individuals who may have been responsible once accidental causes were eliminated. That investigation has consisted of numerous interviews with various individuals as well as execution of a number of search warrants and is being conducted jointly by the IMPD and the MCPO," Curry said. "Based upon those interviews and results of those search warrants, that investigation is now considered an active criminal homicide investigation."


http://www.wthr.com/story/20143173/owners-of-home-in-explosion-bewildered-by-investigation
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Locutus

#31
November 20, 2012, 01:17:52 AM
Whoever did that may face both federal and state charges.  :yes:
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Palehorse

#32
November 20, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
Quote from: Locutus on November 20, 2012, 01:17:52 AM
Whoever did that may face both federal and state charges.  :yes:

:yes:
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Anne

#33
November 20, 2012, 11:36:41 AM
Dang, if someone did this just to get out of some financial problems, they seriously miscalculated the amount of damage they caused, unless of course they intended to kill the people next door. People can be so stupid. Declare bankrupcy, at least no one is killed or goes to jail.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

#34
November 20, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on November 20, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Indeed, and as I said early on, this sure didn't strike me as a "gas leak" that one typically sees resulting in a fire/explosion. In fact I'd venture to say some kind of accelerant was utilized (IE explosive/explosive device) in order to create such a large amount of damage.

As to suspects, I say the crying lady who lived there is at or near the top of the list. (Ground zero building). And so is her ex-husband.

For all we know the divorce put them both in financial straights and they could have concocted the scheme together. While the fact her and her daughter were conveniently away at the time of the incident maybe a coincidence, I am not so sure about that. And if it was indeed innocent, then it leads me to believe she and her daughter could very well have been targeted for death.

I knew DHS and BATF were not only there for shits n giggles. Maybe on day one, but not days later. . .

I just hope they catch whomever is responsible !  :spooked: :eek:

  If you let a house completely fill with gas to the point where the gas water heater or spark will set it off, you got yourself one big, big bomb.  Remember when the gas leak under the grand stand at the Colosseum blew a whole section of bleachers clear out on the ice and killing many people at the Indiana State Fair grounds.    :yes:  Very, very bad.   :shrug: :think:

The Troll

#35
November 20, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on November 20, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Indeed, and as I said early on, this sure didn't strike me as a "gas leak" that one typically sees resulting in a fire/explosion. In fact I'd venture to say some kind of accelerant was utilized (IE explosive/explosive device) in order to create such a large amount of damage.

As to suspects, I say the crying lady who lived there is at or near the top of the list. (Ground zero building). And so is her ex-husband.

For all we know the divorce put them both in financial straights and they could have concocted the scheme together. While the fact her and her daughter were conveniently away at the time of the incident maybe a coincidence, I am not so sure about that. And if it was indeed innocent, then it leads me to believe she and her daughter could very well have been targeted for death.

I knew DHS and BATF were not only there for shits n giggles. Maybe on day one, but not days later. . .

I just hope they catch whomever is responsible !  :spooked: :eek:

Palehorse

#36
November 20, 2012, 11:52:41 PM
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
  If you let a house completely fill with gas to the point where the gas water heater or spark will set it off, you got yourself one big, big bomb.  Remember when the gas leak under the grand stand at the Colosseum blew a whole section of bleachers clear out on the ice and killing many people at the Indiana State Fair grounds.    :yes:  Very, very bad.   :shrug: :think:

I can see it happening under the conditions of an intentional act, but not typically otherwise. It will take one HELL of an "accidental" leak to blow up a 3000 sf home. . .

I do not recall that happening at Pepsi Colosseum. Must have been before I moved to this state. . .
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Locutus

#37
November 20, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
I wonder what the motive may have been.  I haven't seen any news that even speculates as to why someone would do something like that.  But then again, it has faded from the news coverage here in South Florida, so I may have missed something.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#38
November 21, 2012, 12:20:08 AM
Quote from: Locutus on November 20, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
I wonder what the motive may have been.  I haven't seen any news that even speculates as to why someone would do something like that.  But then again, it has faded from the news coverage here in South Florida, so I may have missed something.

The authorities are keeping it to themselves and refusing to engage in speculation publicly. Someone at work got a newsflash fro one of the local TV stations, on their smart phone, that indicated an arrest warrant had been issued for two individuals, but I have been unable to confirm that via any local media source. . .

Don't worry though, once they arrest someone the news will go national again. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#39
November 21, 2012, 12:23:24 AM
It's an absolutely intriguing story regardless of whether the news goes national again or not.  I look forward to seeing it resolved. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#40
November 21, 2012, 12:32:09 AM
Quote from: Locutus on November 21, 2012, 12:23:24 AM
It's an absolutely intriguing story regardless of whether the news goes national again or not.  I look forward to seeing it resolved.

No doubt. (Jewish Lightening tops my list of motives).
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

#41
November 21, 2012, 08:34:43 AM
Quote from: Locutus on November 20, 2012, 11:54:06 PM
I wonder what the motive may have been.  I haven't seen any news that even speculates as to why someone would do something like that.  But then again, it has faded from the news coverage here in South Florida, so I may have missed something.

  Years ago there was a big new home burned down.  The wife and I were at a party where the couple who owned the house.  We knew them as they went to the same small school.  At the party this couple got in to one big argument a bout how broke they they were, no money and how they were going to pay the bills.  This couple even left the party early.

  About a month or two later we read that their new house burned down while they were vacationing in Florida and at the time we wondered how they could afford to go of vacation while being broke.  Later that year the couple were arrested for arson.  How did they catch them?  One of the two guys they hired  to burn down their house sold their big television and the cops found out and the arsonist turned Stool Pigeon and told the whole story. 

  But, what is the real kicker, two or three years later this man to had his own house down, he and his brother won a multimillion dollar Illinois lottery.   :yes:  You ought to see the big house he built with that money.  WOW!

  The people Indianapolis who was paid or did this didn't know that when you fill a whole house full gas you got a big bomb probably equal to a case of dynamite.  BOOOOM!

Palehorse

#42
November 21, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
Officially, 33 of the homes will have to be torn down because of this explosion!  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

#43
November 21, 2012, 01:17:48 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on November 20, 2012, 11:52:41 PM
I can see it happening under the conditions of an intentional act, but not typically otherwise. It will take one HELL of an "accidental" leak to blow up a 3000 sf home. . .

I do not recall that happening at Pepsi Colosseum. Must have been before I moved to this state. . .

It was Halloween night in 1962 or '63. A propane tank or some type of gas tank blew in one of the concession stands under the seats. Several people were killed and many were injured. When my son was born (in 1968) the other woman in the room with me had been there that night and her husband was one of the ones killed. I don't remember what the attraction was that night.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

#44
November 22, 2012, 11:47:10 AM


  Opening night of the Holiday on Ice show, 1963, and explosion caused by a leaking propane tank used to heat pop corn blew up under the grand stand.  The explosion blew the stand and it's people 60 feet into the air and out on the ice killing 74 people and injuring 400.  The second blast that took placed just a few minutes later severely burned people who survived.

  You can find the story on Goggle.  I doesn't take much gas natural or propane in a confined area to do a lot of damage.
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