Explosion S Side Of INDPLS

[Palehorse]

I thought they ruled out a plane crash yesterday.

They did. I do not understand why the NTSB is on site. . . (EDIT:  They are saying that the NTSB has authority over the transport of gas, including the gas line mains only. Once they eliminate the gas main as a contributor or cause they are out of there.)

The "owner" of the house that exploded (presumed vacant but his daughter and her child were living there and out of town) said his daughter had texted him stating there was a problem with the furnace.

The gas company says there was no leak on the main line nor service line to the home. . .

[Locutus]

"Carson said the National Transportation Safety Board and the federal Department of Transportation, which have oversight over pipelines, were sending investigators."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/12/15110656-massive-indianapolis-explosion-baffles-investigators?lite

^^  That's interesting.  I had no idea that pipeline oversight was within the purview of the DOT and NTSB. 

[Palehorse]

"Carson said the National Transportation Safety Board and the federal Department of Transportation, which have oversight over pipelines, were sending investigators."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/12/15110656-massive-indianapolis-explosion-baffles-investigators?lite

^^  That's interesting.  I had no idea that pipeline oversight was within the purview of the DOT and NTSB.

Yeah, me neither. . .

[Palehorse]

Davis Homes, the builder of the involved sub-division and homes in it, went out of business in 2008. That will make replacing the destroyed homes a challenge. . .

[Anne]

If the cause was of the explosion a malfunctioning furnace why would Davis Homes be responsible? Years ago a furnace exploaded and killed a little boy in a house down the street from us.

[Henry Hawk]

I think it's the result of Henry's head popping off because Obama won the election. He was holding out hope for Florida.

It has not yet expoloded....it is on the verge though.....It may hold of until he gets sworn in Jan...THEN watch out!

[Palehorse]

If the cause was of the explosion a malfunctioning furnace why would Davis Homes be responsible? Years ago a furnace exploaded and killed a little boy in a house down the street from us.

1. Faulty installation perhaps.

But that was not the meaning of my post. I meant that since Davis homes owns the design and copyright of the homes in said subdivision, and they are now defunct, they cannot rebuild what has been lost.

These people will now be forced to use an "independent" builder that will not have access to the plans, (unless the owners of these destroyed homes  happen to have the owner's prints, which is probably unlikely seeing how a lot of them were blown to pieces), and even those will not have the structural blueprints necessary to duplicate what they once had.

The HOA will have a hissy fit if they build anything else, or try to. 

[Anne]

OK, I understand now. I would think that the HOA would be more than willing to work with the homeowners rather than leave the burned out and damaged homes just sitting there or a hole in the ground. Some insurance companies won't let the places be completely demolished until everything is settled.

[The Troll]

It has not yet expoloded....it is on the verge though.....It may hold of until he gets sworn in Jan...THEN watch out!

  Can I come watch and sell tickets?               

[Palehorse]

OK, I understand now. I would think that the HOA would be more than willing to work with the homeowners rather than leave the burned out and damaged homes just sitting there or a hole in the ground. Some insurance companies won't let the places be completely demolished until everything is settled.

One would think that but if it is ASSOCIA then all bets are off. Those jackasses are notoriously nazi-esq and a real PITA to deal with. 

If they are lucky they are self governing and if that is the case then the HOA will not be a problem. But none the less the builder issue is a huge problem for these people.

[followsthewolf]

1. Faulty installation perhaps.

But that was not the meaning of my post. I meant that since Davis homes owns the design and copyright of the homes in said subdivision, and they are now defunct, they cannot rebuild what has been lost.

These people will now be forced to use an "independent" builder that will not have access to the plans, (unless the owners of these destroyed homes  happen to have the owner's prints, which is probably unlikely seeing how a lot of them were blown to pieces), and even those will not have the structural blueprints necessary to duplicate what they once had.

The HOA will have a hissy fit if they build anything else, or try to. 

Which is why I have multiple backups of all important papers and they are in several locations.

Paranoid?

Perhaps; but look at the amount of research that was lost in Frankenstorm. Years and years of critical medical and scientific study and experimentation, gone in no time.

Obviously, not all the experimentation could have been saved, but the notes and preliminary findings wouldn't have been lost.

[Palehorse]

Which is why I have multiple backups of all important papers and they are in several locations.

Paranoid?

Perhaps; but look at the amount of research that was lost in Frankenstorm. Years and years of critical medical and scientific study and experimentation, gone in no time.

Obviously, not all the experimentation could have been saved, but the notes and preliminary findings wouldn't have been lost.

Thanks for the validation my friend! I was starting to think I had OCD when it comes to important papers. 

[Locutus]

 November 19, 2012 ( INDIANAPOLIS) (WLS) -- A dramatic and disturbing development in a deadly explosion that leveled an Indianapolis neighborhood: At first it was called a gas line accident, but investigators now say it was intentional.

The blast on November 10 destroyed more than 80 homes and killed two residents. Late Monday afternoon, authorities announced that the explosion was "criminal homicide" and not an accident as first thought.

Police are now looking for a possible getaway vehicle from the blast scene and there is a reward for information leading to suspects.

It is Indianapolis's Homeland Security chief who says that this was the result of a criminal act. Investigators would not take questions at its Monday briefing, so there are no details what authorities suspect motivated the bomber or bombers, nor how the blast occurred.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=8891666

[Locutus]

Jeeezus!! 

That's one hell of a way to kill!   

[Palehorse]

Jeeezus!! 

That's one hell of a way to kill!

Indeed, and as I said early on, this sure didn't strike me as a "gas leak" that one typically sees resulting in a fire/explosion. In fact I'd venture to say some kind of accelerant was utilized (IE explosive/explosive device) in order to create such a large amount of damage.

As to suspects, I say the crying lady who lived there is at or near the top of the list. (Ground zero building). And so is her ex-husband.

For all we know the divorce put them both in financial straights and they could have concocted the scheme together. While the fact her and her daughter were conveniently away at the time of the incident maybe a coincidence, I am not so sure about that. And if it was indeed innocent, then it leads me to believe she and her daughter could very well have been targeted for death.

I knew DHS and BATF were not only there for shits n giggles. Maybe on day one, but not days later. . .

I just hope they catch whomever is responsible !