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Anti-Islam film incites violence

Started by Anne, September 12, 2012, 07:44:51 AM

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 12, 2012, 12:19:26 PM
The movie is nothing more than a mere excuse for those who killed Christopher Stevens........despite the idiocy of the film, there IS something called freedom of speech that we have here.  That is my :2cents:

  I made a little change.   :biggrin:

Exterminator

Quote from: Olias on September 12, 2012, 12:24:55 PM
I think the President said it well in his remarks this morning. We reject any denigration of anyone's religion. But we have that sticky little First Amendment thingy.

Keep in mind that I haven't seen the film. Probably never will.

But if we have to hold our tongues to satisfy extremism, then cut mine out.

Here's the trailer and yes, it's pretty stupid.

I'm not arguing against freedom of speech nor am I suggesting that the radicals in Libya were justified in attacking our embassy.  What I am suggesting is that it is only a matter of time before Israel attacks Iran, a move that currently had tepid support at best here in the U.S.  This film, however, by inciting violence against U.S. interests, will increase support for an Israeli attack by fueling anti-Muslim sentiment here.  It seems pretty obvious what the intent is and it wasn't to make a movie that people would want to watch.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Has Libya or Egypt's government condemned this?  :confused:

I have not heard any....
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Bo D

WHAT AN ASSHOLE ......

Romney on Tuesday night accused the Obama administration of sympathizing with the protesters who attacked the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. At the time of his statement, U.S. officials had confirmed that one American had been killed in Benghazi. Wednesday morning, the White House announced that Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed.

But the embassy statement that Romney was criticizing was issued before the protests in Egypt and before the Benghazi attack.
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Locutus

This whole conversation belongs on the "God Sucks" thread, and is further evidence of why we're doomed unless we can cast off beliefs in these deeply ingrained fairy tales, including the Christians.  These kind of beliefs are the vilest of memes ever visited on humankind.  Religion has long been used to incite division and hatred, and this is just the latest example of such.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 12, 2012, 12:45:57 PM
Has Libya or Egypt's government condemned this?  :confused:

I have not heard any....

Yes.  Libya's government specifically has condemned it, apologized profusely to the U.S. and to do whatever is possible to bring those responsible to justice.

In Egypt there are really just protests.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on September 12, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
This whole conversation belongs on the "God Sucks" thread, and is further evidence of why we're doomed unless we can cast off beliefs in these deeply ingrained fairy tales, including the Christians.  These kind of beliefs are the vilest of memes ever visited on humankind.  Religion has long been used to incite division and hatred, and this is just the latest example of such.

Exactly.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on September 12, 2012, 12:36:08 PM

Here's the trailer and yes, it's pretty stupid.


And even more stupid are the comments on that video.  Did you read any of them?  Absolutely pathetic.  If anyone wants an example of the hatred that religion spawns, just read some of those comments.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Anne

Ummm, I didn't start this particular thread, I asked this question in random comments. I would not have titled it this way. What I wonder, where were the Libyan police/troops who are supposed to protect a foreign embassy (this goes for Egypt, too). If a country is unable or unwilling to protect an embassy I think they should be better protected by the embassy's military and not be afraid to shoot or the embassy should not be there in the first place. What should we do now, Henry said we should stop sending money, that might be a start and even an encouragement to the governments to better protect an embassy. Do we just let it go or is there something else we should do?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

Here is the Wikipedia article on the film.  I can't believe it took 5 million dollars to make that piece of crap. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocence_of_Muslims
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Olias on September 12, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
WHAT AN ASSHOLE ......

Romney on Tuesday night accused the Obama administration of sympathizing with the protesters who attacked the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. At the time of his statement, U.S. officials had confirmed that one American had been killed in Benghazi. Wednesday morning, the White House announced that Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed.

But the embassy statement that Romney was criticizing was issued before the protests in Egypt and before the Benghazi attack.

  Romney is a god damn fool.  He will say anything to win.  When will the Republicans realize that they a elected a Republican candidate that is nothing but a empty white shirt with no morals.  How would a person make so much money so fast if he was a lair and a thief.  Henry he's your guy and you're always right.  :haha:

Anne

Are you all saying that because the film was made in the US we should give these guys a pass, that it was somehow our fault?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll



  All religious group and I do mean all are Bat Shit Crazy.  That's my :2cents:

Locutus

Quote from: Anne on September 12, 2012, 01:44:37 PM
Are you all saying that because the film was made in the US we should give these guys a pass, that it was somehow our fault?

I don't think anyone has said that.  Exterminator said it best when he said that the makers of the film acted with the dubious intention of shoring up support for Israel in the United States, and that Bacile knew full well what the results of the film would be before it was even made.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: The Troll on September 12, 2012, 01:46:03 PM

  All religious group and I do mean all are Bat Shit Crazy.  That's my :2cents:

Yep!  100% correct. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson