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Started by Henry Hawk, September 10, 2012, 10:13:49 AM

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Henry Hawk

September 10, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000. .... Second Highest in the Nation..........so, let's go on strike and to hell with the kids.    :rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

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September 10, 2012, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000. .... Second Highest in the Nation..........so, let's go on strike and to hell with the kids.    :rolleyes:

Any idea what it costs to obtain a Master's degree and what it costs to live in the Chicago area?  Why is this any concern of yours?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

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September 10, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000. .... Second Highest in the Nation..........so, let's go on strike and to hell with the kids.    :rolleyes:

  You do know that Henry is a SCAB.  Even tho his dad was a GM/UAW employee and member and Henry used all of the benefits dear old dad got, he's still a SCAB.  Plus dear old dad is living pretty good off that UAW pension.   :yes:  Henry thinks just like a SCAB and since the school teachers are union members they don't deserve any good wages or benefits like he doesn't have. :rant:

  You do know what a SCAB is?  A person who want to stand on a working person's throat, keeping the people down on low wages, no benefits and having no power against the  predatory capitalist business or corporations.   :trustme: 

  It you could find a dead whale on the bottom of the sea and turned it over, the worms on it's bottom eating it, that would be SCABS.  :trustme:

Henry Hawk

#3
September 10, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: The Troll on September 10, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
You do know what a SCAB is?  A person who want to stand on a working person's throat, keeping the people down on low wages, no benefits and having no power against the  predatory capitalist business or corporations.   :trustme: 


They are the 2nd highest paid teachers in the Country!  I do NOT feel sorry for them........they need to go back to work and do the job they went to school for........teach kids.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#4
September 10, 2012, 12:47:53 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
They are the 2nd highest paid teachers in the Country!  I do NOT feel sorry for them........they need to go back to work and do the job they went to school for........teach kids.

They live in a metropolitan area with one of the highest costs of living in the country as well.  Salaries in all professions reflect differences in cost of living depending upon where the hiring entity is located.  Is this so difficult to understand?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#5
September 10, 2012, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 10, 2012, 12:47:53 PM
They live in a metropolitan area with one of the highest costs of living in the country as well.  Salaries in all professions reflect differences in cost of living depending upon where the hiring entity is located.  Is this so difficult to understand?

They turned down a 16% increase in pay.........pretty good for a f'd up economy.  and btw, I don't care WHERE they live, they still have the 2nd highest in the country....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#6
September 10, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 12:53:31 PM
They turned down a 16% increase in pay.........pretty good for a f'd up economy.

You have no idea how long they've gone without a decent raise.

QuoteI don't care WHERE they live, they still have the 2nd highest in the country....

Typical small town mentality.  Just because you don't understand the world outside of Markle-fucking-ville, doesn't make what goes on here wrong.  As I said before, this is none of your concern.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#7
September 10, 2012, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 10, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
You have no idea how long they've gone without a decent raise.

Typical small town mentality.  Just because you don't understand the world outside of Markle-fucking-ville, doesn't make what goes on here wrong.  As I said before, this is none of your concern.

uh, do I really care if YOU think it is none of my concern?  Really Ex?  Your learning ability must be hindered a tad.

I'm tired of Unions taking advantage of good things....they already have a great pay with great benifits and they want more, when our economy is struggling.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

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September 10, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 02:30:41 PM
uh, do I really care if YOU think it is none of my concern?  Really Ex?  Your learning ability must be hindered a tad.

I'm tired of Unions taking advantage of good things....they already have a great pay with great benefits and they want more, when our economy is struggling.

  How in hell do you think they got those good wages?  They got them because the banded together and because they had a skill trade, teaching and they made the powers that be pay them a good wage.   :dam:

  They are not like you Hawk, where you have to kiss ass, brown nose the boss to get a raise.  How long has it been since you got a raise, Hawk?  That is why you're jealous Hawk.  They work together and they get things done.  All you have going for you is to kiss ass :kissit:

  If you were in the Electrical Union you sure would be making more money for your skill trade in the company than you are now and probably have more benefits say like a pension, not a piss ass 401K.  That is one thing I like about being in the union, you don't have to kiss ass :kissit: or brown nose to get a raise.  :trustme:  Don't blame the unions for you situation, you did it to yourself.  :haha:

Exterminator

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September 10, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 02:30:41 PM
Your learning ability must be hindered a tad.

LMFAO!  Go with that!

QuoteI'm tired of Unions taking advantage of good things....they already have a great pay with great benifits and they want more, when our economy is struggling.

Not your school district; not your city; not your state; not your money; not any of your business.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#10
September 10, 2012, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 10, 2012, 02:56:11 PM
LMFAO!  Go with that!

Not your school district; not your city; not your state; not your money; not any of your business.

  You got that right EX,  :thumbsup:  :salute:  :tiphat:

Henry Hawk

#11
September 10, 2012, 03:02:36 PM
79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading.....
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/districts/

Unions ruining good things ARE my business.  Unions of today SUCK!  they don't care about the kids, they want more power.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#12
September 10, 2012, 03:19:12 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 03:02:36 PM
79% of Chicago 8th Graders Not Proficient in Reading.....

Neither are you; maybe you should worry less about what's going on in Chicago and more about how you can help the schools there in Madison County turn out students who can correctly conjugate the most basic verbs in the English language?

QuoteUnions ruining good things ARE my business.

LMAO!  You sound like a 5 year-old: "those unions ruin everything!"
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#13
September 10, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
Union teachers have one of the only jobs in the country, where they can still get a raise for NOT doing their job.  As a mater of fact, the get a raise for doing a poor job.  THAT is why Unions suck.  You can suck at your job and expect the owner to give you a raise.  Raises should be earned.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#14
September 10, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
Union teachers have one of the only jobs in the country, where they can still get a raise for NOT doing their job.

They're teachers, not miracle workers.  You can't expect them to turn dumb kids into geniuses; all they have to work with is the raw materials that you provide.

QuoteRaises should be earned.

Is that why you haven't gotten one in so long?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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