Affordability of College - Issue?

[The Troll]

Ya, and you can live like the average person does who lives in India I know you'd love that.   

    Why would you give such a stupid return post.  I can see that college wouldn't improve your intelligence.   

[me]

  As far as education goes, I would like to see America do what India has done but 4 places and 4 times larger. India has a college that takes young people from all over India with the highest intelligence.

They take the young people, feed, cloth, feed and education for free. The only thing is they have to stay in India to work and provide new technology for India.

  If we can have a West Point, have Annapolis, the Air force academy and a Coast Guard Academy why can't we have 4 civilian academy located in the North, East, South and the West.

  I would like to see the brains and inventors these college would produce.    Hell, while we at it let's make 5 Academies, one in the middle of the of America and let all taxpayers pay for it.  IT IS FOR AMERICA and our future health. 

    Why would you give such a stupid return post.  I can see that college wouldn't improve your intelligence.   

Ya, and you can live like the average person does who lives in India I know you'd love that.   

[Palehorse]

I think Troll's idea is not without merit. It would sure put some much needed competition into the tuition most of the institutions of higher learning are charging.

[Henry Hawk]

I'm not sure what he means.

We already have some excellent colleges all over our country, that gives scholarships out to the most intelligent high school students in our country.  Why do we need the taxpayers to pay for it?
If any kid with a high intelligence can go to just about any university.

[The Troll]

I'm not sure what he means.

We already have some excellent colleges all over our country, that gives scholarships out to the most intelligent high school students in our country.  Why do we need the taxpayers to pay for it?
If any kid with a high intelligence can go to just about any university.

  Oh, there is some scholarships, but never a free ride.  Never enough to go around and a lot of talent is lost.  What is a poor brainy kid going to do with a $5,000 to $10,000 scholarship when he broke and a college education cost $80,000 with out food and board.

  If you can send a kid to a military school to teach him or her to fight and kill in a war.  Why can't we send our brightest young men and women to get an education which would be a help to all of America.  Only the highest SAT's and scholarship and mental capability.  If you don't have the brains, nobody can buy the kid in.  No matter how rich you are.   

  I would bet in a short time these academies would set Harvard, Yale in the dust.      Then maybe we could break the chain and lock that these big Eastern colleges has on Washington DC.     

[Henry Hawk]

  Oh, there is some scholarships, but never a free ride.  Never enough to go around and a lot of talent is lost.  What is a poor brainy kid going to do with a $5,000 to $10,000 scholarship when he broke and a college education cost $80,000 with out food and board.

  If you can send a kid to a military school to teach him or her to fight and kill in a war.  Why can't we send our brightest young men and women to get an education which would be a help to all of America.  Only the highest SAT's and scholarship and mental capability.  If you don't have the brains, nobody can buy the kid in.  No matter how rich you are.   

  I would bet in a short time these academies would set Harvard, Yale in the dust.      Then maybe we could break the chain and lock that these big Eastern colleges has on Washington DC.     

In 2010, there were 20,000 full ride scholarships given to various private and state colleges. 

United States Air Force Academy - 4,543 enrolled
United States Naval Academy - 4,494 enrolled
Massachusetts Maritime Academy - 1,117 enrolled
United States Military Academy (West Point) - 3,390 enrolled

All of these kids have to give 5 years military committment of Active duty, after they graduate.

If it was as you say troll, would these kids have to work (commit) for our government then for so many years?  I think it would become too political.
I'm not 100% opposed to finding better ways to encourage kids to study and make something out of themselves....

[Anne]

My niece has a four year full ride scholarship to Ohio State because of her good grades. It covers everything except her transportation to the school and home again. She lives in the southwest. A friend's in-law had a full ride scholarship to AU that even included a stipend. I put this here as two examples that there are some very good scholarships out there in addition to athletic scholarships. You have to look for them.

[followsthewolf]

That's true.

My granddaughter is on a full ride to Mercyhurst University -- not a dime from an athletic scholarship.

Carrying a 3.95 accum.

Do I sound like a doting grampa??????     

[Locutus]

Congratulations grampa! 

[The Troll]

In 2010, there were 20,000 full ride scholarships given to various private and state colleges. 

United States Air Force Academy - 4,543 enrolled
United States Naval Academy - 4,494 enrolled
Massachusetts Maritime Academy - 1,117 enrolled
United States Military Academy (West Point) - 3,390 enrolled

All of these kids have to give 5 years military committment of Active duty, after they graduate.

If it was as you say troll, would these kids have to work (commit) for our government then for so many years?  I think it would become too political.
I'm not 100% opposed to finding better ways to encourage kids to study and make something out of themselves....

  WOW!  20,000 free rides.  Let's see there is over 300 Million people here in this country.  How many families are there out of this and how many children is there wanting to go to college?   

  Henry you're presenting a case where you won't have to pay to educate someone Else's kids.  Even tho the government paid for your boy's education.  In other words I paid for your boys education.  Right?      Cheap ass.   

  I didn't say they had to work for the government.  I said that they have to stay in the country and pay taxes like any other middle class person.  No matter how much they made or how many millions or billions they were worth.  No 14.3% like Romney.  Is that easier for you or many be you don't think they should pay taxes for the taxpayer paid for education.   

[Henry Hawk]

  WOW!  20,000 free rides.  Let's see there is over 300 Million people here in this country.  How many families are there out of this and how many children is there wanting to go to college?   

  Henry you're presenting a case where you won't have to pay to educate someone Else's kids.  Even tho the government paid for your boy's education.  In other words I paid for your boys education.  Right?      Cheap ass.   

  I didn't say they had to work for the government.  I said that they have to stay in the country and pay taxes like any other middle class person.  No matter how much they made or how many millions or billions they were worth.  No 14.3% like Romney.  Is that easier for you or many be you don't think they should pay taxes for the taxpayer paid for education.   

I'm really not sure WHAT you just tried to say......as far as my boy, he gave took an oath to serve and protect our nation....he underwent some extensive training, and is ready to go to work at a minutes notice.  That is part of our constitutional duties to provide a military. 

On the other hand, I don't see anywhere in our constitution, where we are to provide free education to selective students.

[The Troll]

I'm really not sure WHAT you just tried to say......as far as my boy, he gave took an oath to serve and protect our nation....he underwent some extensive training, and is ready to go to work at a minutes notice.  That is part of our constitutional duties to provide a military. 

On the other hand, I don't see anywhere in our constitution, where we are to provide free education to selective students.

  See, again a cheap ass.  Also it doesn't say that we can't provide educations for selective students, what about the Peace Corp.  The armed forces are very selective about who get in the services.  It not like the old days when judges sent the bad boy to service.   

  What the hell is the difference, to give an education to serve America with brains not with your body as cannon fodder in war.

.  Maybe the ones with the brains won't have to die in a foreign middle East country, like Romney wants to go to war in Iran and send troops to the new middle East rebellions.    I sure hope your boy isn't sent over there and killed in another unneeded Middle East War.  Try praying Henry.    Remember you wanted him to go in the Armed Forces.    I sure wouldn't want my boy in danger, no matter how much I save on his education.     Scrooge McHawk.   

[The Troll]

  See, again a cheap ass.  Also it doesn't say that we can't provide educations for selective students, what about the Peace Corp.  The armed forces are very selective about who get in the services.  It not like the old days when judges sent the bad boy to service.   

  What the hell is the difference, to give an education to serve America with brains not with your body as cannon fodder in war.

.  Maybe the ones with the brains won't have to die in a foreign middle East country, like Romney wants to go to war in Iran and send troops to the new middle East rebellions.    I sure hope your boy isn't sent over there and killed in another unneeded Middle East War.  Try praying Henry.    Remember you wanted him to go in the Armed Forces.    I sure wouldn't want my boy in danger, no matter how much I save on his education.     Scrooge McHawk.   

  We need this to replace all of the people in Washington DC who has been to Harvard and Yale.