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Affordability of College - Issue?

Started by Palehorse, May 09, 2012, 12:07:23 AM

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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 09, 2012, 03:36:32 PM
I was just utilizing the opportunity to blast back what you guys have been throwing at me for years........the heritage foundation is one I will ALWAYS rely on for a conservative opinion....so, I'm not sure if I'm a goose or a gander. You pick.

It wasn't you, it was your friend 'me' And in that case I will remember that the next time she starts blathering away. The Heritage Foundation is nothing more than a corporate mouthpiece.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 09, 2012, 03:34:01 PM
trying to garner college votes for november.



It has come to this for all parties involved. But what is important is what they do to us while they are fishing for votes.

The Republicans would kill the preventative health and cancer screening program.

The Democrats would stop the rich from playing an end run on the tax code to get out of paying Social Security and Medicare taxes.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Every single human being in the U.S. would benefit from preventative health and cancer screening. Do you really want to take that away?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

S corporations are nothing but a tax loophole; portraying this as an attack on small business when that small business is likely no more than a sole proprietor who should be paying income taxes on all of his income (like I had to) is a joke. 
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on May 09, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
S corporations are nothing but a tax loophole; portraying this as an attack on small business when that small business is likely no more than a sole proprietor who should be paying income taxes on all of his income (like I had to) is a joke.

  John McCain's wife is pulling that tax con.  Anything to get out of paying taxes and cheat the government.   :yes: :rant:

Bo D

Quote from: Olias on May 09, 2012, 03:48:32 PM
It has come to this for all parties involved. But what is important is what they do to us while they are fishing for votes.

The Republicans would kill the preventative health and cancer screening program.

The Democrats would stop the rich from playing an end run on the tax code to get out of paying Social Security and Medicare taxes.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Every single human being in the U.S. would benefit from preventative health and cancer screening. Do you really want to take that away?

Hank, while you're here ... have you had a chance to think about this?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on May 11, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
Hank, while you're here ... have you had a chance to think about this?

olias, I don't think any of the proposals are going to happen.  I think both sides are playing games.  I need to know more about everything involved with the repubs proposal of cutting into the health care....
the bottom line is the deal is dead for now....and they WILL end up keeping the student loans where they are.
I do know that things are not always as the seem to be....the media lets you know as much as they want you too...

Lets let this play out a little further before we get too excited either way...

I still think it is all a bs, political move, and the dems are not only wanting what is best for students, they want VOTES.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 11, 2012, 10:36:17 AM
olias, I don't think any of the proposals are going to happen.  I think both sides are playing games.  I need to know more about everything involved with the repubs proposal of cutting into the health care....
the bottom line is the deal is dead for now....and they WILL end up keeping the student loans where they are.
I do know that things are not always as the seem to be....the media lets you know as much as they want you too...

Lets let this play out a little further before we get too excited either way...

I still think it is all a bs, political move, and the dems are not only wanting what is best for students, they want VOTES.

They are playing games with the future of our children.

Speaking of playing games, did anyone hear what Nancy Pelosi said about Obama's announcement of 'support' for gay marriage? .....

"It was moving, it was historic, and it was a great day for our country."

Give me a break.  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll


  It has been proved over and over that the Republicans will do anything, take health care, take money way from public schools, take money from college students, take money from Planned Parenthood and beat up and bully gays.  Too keep from taxing the richest of the rich.   :@#%&:

  Political, YES.  The Republicans want to kill the middle class.  It's a proven fact.   :mad: :rant: :angry:


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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on May 11, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
They are playing games with the future of our children.

Speaking of playing games, did anyone hear what Nancy Pelosi said about Obama's announcement of 'support' for gay marriage? .....

“It was moving, it was historic, and it was a great day for our country."

Give me a break.  :rolleyes:

I say it is much ado about nothing...as far as Obama's remarks.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 11, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
I say it is much ado about nothing...as far as Obama's remarks.

  I got to say this, the Republicans are all out to keep the middle class and the poor out of college so their dumbass children (George W.) can go to college.  That also keeps them from spending the money to buy their kid in.  (George W.)   :yes:  George W. Bush the worst president America has ever had and he has a degree from Yale.  :haha:  :haha:

  All so if  you look at what the Republicans are up to, they are wanting to cut head start, school lunches, food stamps, children health insurance and on and on and on.  :angry:

  When are the dumbass people who vote Republican going to wake up.   :mad: :mad: :angry:   :rant:

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 13, 2012, 10:24:25 AM
  I got to say this, the Republicans are all out to keep the middle class and the poor out of college so their dumbass children (George W.) can go to college.   
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Soon only the rich 1%ers will be able to afford college; the next milestone in the dumbing down of the 99% in order to further oppress them.
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

The cost of attending college has risen nearly three times the rate of the cost of living, and could eventually put higher education out of reach for most Americans. . .

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-12-03/living/college.costs_1_family-income-college-affordability-higher-education-report?_s=PM:LIVING

A 2008 article that is even more applicable today!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville