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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 15, 2015, 03:03:47 PM
Facts can be distorted?

Yes, but facts in the purest form are always the truth. Right?
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Anne on June 15, 2015, 02:22:29 PM
Because just the facts don't always lead to the cause.

I'm not sure that I understand. But my first thought was that facts always support the cause.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 15, 2015, 03:48:22 PM
I'm not sure that I understand. But my first thought was that facts always support the cause.

Facts and data support root causation only when they are relevant to a subject under consideration. One of the biggest challenges toward revelation of truth can be filtering true facts from factual noise; with the noise typically serving to obscure truth via providing a rat hole within which to get lost.
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Anne

You explained it much better than I could, thanks, PH.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

Example...

Bruce Jenner is a man, not a woman.  THAT is a FACT.  But he is trying desperately to change the truth.  So is the media. But the bottom line is, FACTS are FACTS....he has man-parts.  Even removing them, will not change the facts.  Changing his name to a woman's name is true, and anybody can change their name....but it STILL doesn't make him a woman.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2015, 10:46:25 AM
Example...

Bruce Jenner is a man, not a woman.  THAT is a FACT.  But he is trying desperately to change the truth.  So is the media. But the bottom line is, FACTS are FACTS....he has man-parts.  Even removing them, will not change the facts.  Changing his name to a woman's name is true, and anybody can change their name....but it STILL doesn't make him a woman.

I'd like to inquire surrounding just how it is that you know he still has a kickstand?

He said on his "interview" that he would never have surgery to turn his gender to that of a woman; then just a few weeks later we see he has indeed had surgery, and it would appear, extensive surgery to do just that!
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

My point is kickstand or not, he is a man...despite any surgery...he is a man. That is a fact nothing can ever change that.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
My point is kickstand or not, he is a man...despite any surgery...he is a man. That is a fact nothing can ever change that.

  Just why would you give a damn, Kickstand Hawk.  :doh:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 17, 2015, 04:01:27 PM
  Just why would you give a damn, Kickstand Hawk.  :doh:

I really don't, but just tired of people forgetting that words have meaning to them....and just because they WANT to be something other than what the facts are, doesn't mean they get their way.

Bruce is a dude...
Rachel Dolezal is a white girl...
Hillary is a liar...

Those are just simple FACTS....saying otherwise does not make it so.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 18, 2015, 08:43:44 AM
I really don't, but just tired of people forgetting that words have meaning to them....and just because they WANT to be something other than what the facts are, doesn't mean they get their way.

Bruce is a dude...
Rachel Dolezal is a white girl...
Hillary is a liar...

Those are just simple FACTS....saying otherwise does not make it so.

  Bunky, you're just plain crazy.   :yes:  Your stupid god does make mistakes.    :yes:  I see it every time I go to the rehabilitation center where I work out three days a week.   :'(  These young kids with mental problems, deformed limbs, crippled, blind.  Kid who never did anything to anyone, yes they are paying a price for the rest of their lives, yes Bunky your god is truly fucked up.  Yes Bunky your god wires people brains wrong.  Putting a woman's brain in a man body.  People who you god wired to be Gay.  People who's mind is wired to be things they are things they are not.  Just like you think you're a good Christian, compassionate human being which you are not.   :yes:  Some people are born to be stupid, racist, and Republican, Bunky, you are all of these weird people rolled up into one.   :rolleyes: :rant:

  Hillary has been vetted by you Republican for years and years and you have throwed all kinds of shit (lies) against her.  All kinds of shit against the wall and nothing has stuck.  :haha:  If you want to talk about liars, just talk about all of the assholes that are running for the Republican president, liars all.  :trustme:  Bird Boy.  :chick: :haha:

Anne

Here is a fact to mull over, if I purchase a yard of cotton fabric at a fabric store I will have more material to work with than when I purchased a yard of cotton fabric from the same manufacturer in 1960.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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Anne

It has a very logical answer, but it is a fact. You just need another fact to figure out why.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Y

Quote from: Anne on June 21, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Here is a fact to mull over, if I purchase a yard of cotton fabric at a fabric store I will have more material to work with than when I purchased a yard of cotton fabric from the same manufacturer in 1960.

That smells like one of those trick questions.   :biggrin:

Is it because you still have fabric left over from your original purchase?
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Anne

Quote from: Y on June 30, 2015, 05:43:24 PM
That smells like one of those trick questions.   :biggrin:

Is it because you still have fabric left over from your original purchase?

No, it is because standards have changed. In 1960 the standard was one yard of material was 36 inches long and 36 inches wide. The current standard is now 36 inches long and 45 inches wide.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin