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followsthewolf

Quote from: Sunny on July 24, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
Still grappling with a local suicide. 16 years-old. I selfishly can't imagine what I'd do if this was my child...

:'(

Yes.

I think I know the situation.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Anne

It is a hard thing to understand. A teenage friend of my kids killed himself (this was about 30 years ago) and none of the kids had an inkling of what he was going to do. I am not sure they ever knew why he did it.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

It is completely mind boggling when I hear about such things....very heart breaking.  The thought of any young person doing such a thing is beyond me, let alone the thought of my own children doing this.....it would tear me apart.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sunny

Quote from: Anne on July 25, 2012, 01:43:22 PM
It is a hard thing to understand. A teenage friend of my kids killed himself (this was about 30 years ago) and none of the kids had an inkling of what he was going to do. I am not sure they ever knew why he did it.

It's hard to believe that suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death for youth ages 10-24...and often, there are no warning signs. I didn't know this young man personally; however, it appears he was outgoing, active, athletic, and popular. Of course environmental influences play a significant role, so it's hard to say exactly what the impetus was for him to carry out the lethal act.

We often don't know the "why" behind their actions or ever have real closure. :(

Sandy Eggo

Did anyone hear the news that Vi Ripken was kidnapped this morning? Apparently the kidnapper had her gagged and tied up in the back of her car and took her towards Essex Maryland and was spotted by someone. He gave a cover story that it was his mom or grandmother and he was taking her to the hospital. The person didn't buy it (I guess because you don't bind and gag someone on the way to the hospital :biggrin: ) and called the cops. The kidnapper took her back to Harford county and abandoned her and the vehicle. He never asked for a ransom, but I think he chickened out.

Vi Ripkin is former Oriole player Cal Ripkin's mother.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Palehorse

Quote from: Sunny on July 25, 2012, 04:46:05 PM
It's hard to believe that suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death for youth ages 10-24...and often, there are no warning signs. I didn't know this young man personally; however, it appears he was outgoing, active, athletic, and popular. Of course environmental influences play a significant role, so it's hard to say exactly what the impetus was for him to carry out the lethal act.

We often don't know the "why" behind their actions or ever have real closure. :(

It's not so much what you see externally that can be the indicator. The fact is that age group is typically the area in our development when hormone levels go off the charts, testosterone too, and as well all know both of those things do not make for sound thought processes; and in fact both have been clinically shown to impair judgement and the thought process. We've known about it for decades but we have yet to take that knowledge to the next level and understand what to do about it.

Yes, the phase is inherent toward physical development but despite our similarities in biological and chemical make-up, each of us is unique and each of us experience a very different "reaction" on a physical and mental level when it comes to this phase of our growth.  And as a result every once in "X" number of cases, someone doesn't react "properly" and unless someone within their circle of trust is a trained psychologist it is going to go unnoticed until something like this happens.

It's always sad and it is a terrible event to say the least, but we have no one to blame for it outside of society's abject failure to take the knowledge we have and learn what to do with it.

The lion's share of us have a hard enough time keeping up with immunizations, wellness checks, braces, etc., financially. Adding mental health to that burden isn't in the cards for most of us, thanks to the state of healthcare in this country and the draconian entities healthcare insurers have become.

About the best thing we can hope to do is to create, nurture, and sustain a very close relationship with our children. One that is so close it will drive separation anxiety if we are not careful. Only then will we have an increased ability to recognize the subtle clues that might tell us that inclusion of a mental health check and chemical screen analysis may be necessary to prevent the "out of balance" chemistry situations that in the opinion of many, contribute to such tragedies. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Da Wham

What's the difference between a musician and a Mutual Fund?








One will eventually mature and make some money.

:biggrin:

Da Wham

A mindreader is at a nightclub one night and decides to give a small demonstration of her abilities.

First, she reads the mind of the lead guitarist: "Wow, look at all the cute chicks who showed up tonight! Good crowd!"

Then the drummer: "Lots of people showed up tonight...Great! we're going to make good money tonight"

Then the Keyboard player: "All three of these guys have no appreciation of my talent...What a bunch of losers"

Finally, the Bass player: "C...G...C...G..."

:biggrin:

Henry Hawk

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1778588559001/

Photo of special ritual between dog, owner goes viral

This is a very cool stroy... 8)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 09, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1778588559001/

Photo of special ritual between dog, owner goes viral

This is a very cool stroy... 8)
You know, as much as Ex and I disagree I think he would do something like this for a dog he owned. 
Trump 2020

Anne

Congratulations to the Riverfield LLWS team for winning their first two games at the World Series.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

Goin to the fair today. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2012, 12:43:53 PM
Goin to the fair today. . .

That's one thing that I miss about living in more northerly climes.  It's just too damn hot to even think about wandering around at a fair down here in the summertime.  That's why all of our major fairs are in the winter months.  :yes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Anne

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on August 12, 2012, 01:09:17 PM
That's one thing that I miss about living in more northerly climes.  It's just too damn hot to even think about wandering around at a fair down here in the summertime.  That's why all of our major fairs are in the winter months.  :yes:

They got lucky because the hot weather left for the past week. It was actually pretty nice out there today. Had a corn dog, elephant ear, and assorted other bad for you fair food.

And it appears we left just in time. I wasn't aware the stage coach show was going on or I'd have been in the middle of what just happened. (A stage coach flipped over during the show and several ambulances and other rescue personnel are there right now).  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville