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Started by Henry Hawk, March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM

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Exterminator

I can't really argue with anything he has to say here except this is not who Trayvon Martin was.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 23, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
I thought that was Austin.  That's the only consistently liberal area of Texas.  I have friends from there. 

Oh you would be referring to the "People's Republic of Austin"....at least that is the buzz on the street.
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Locutus

I can't speak to the politics in Houston, but Austin is absolutely the most liberal area of Texas. 
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 23, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
I can't speak to the politics in Houston, but Austin is absolutely the most liberal area of Texas. 

Yeah, I have heard that too, and they ARE politically democrat, at least the city is.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2013, 02:52:18 PM
I can't really argue with anything he has to say here except this is not who Trayvon Martin was.
Travon Martin had little to do with what he was saying other than to describe how he looked that night and why he look suspicious.
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Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on July 23, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
I can't speak to the politics in Houston, but Austin is absolutely the most liberal area of Texas.

OK. So Texas has two islands of sanity.  :biggrin: :biggrin:
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Locutus

Quote from: Bo D on July 23, 2013, 03:47:21 PM
OK. So Texas has two islands of sanity.  :biggrin: :biggrin:

Exactly.  In all honesty though, I was completely unaware of Houston being that way.  Harris County, TX (Houston) led the nation in death penalty convictions and sentences as of a couple of years ago.   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: me on July 23, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
Travon Martin had little to do with what he was saying other than to describe how he looked that night and why he look suspicious.

And that remark was completely off base.  Really?  He was dressed the way some thugs dress?  Why, because he was wearing pants and a hoodie?  I dress like that too sometimes!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2013, 04:19:55 PM
And that remark was completely off base.  Really?  He was dressed the way some thugs dress?  Why, because he was wearing pants and a hoodie?  I dress like that too sometimes!

Sanford police investigator Christopher Serino said he believes Zimmerman pursued Martin because he was wearing a hoodie, not because Martin was black. Serino "told the FBI that gangs in Sanford, referred to in the community as 'goons,' typically dressed in black and wore hoodies. Serino described Zimmerman as overzealous and having a 'little hero complex,' but not a racist."

couple that in with Eight of the last eight breakins in that neighborhood were by young teen-aged black kids.

Right or wrong profiling is what most people do when they are trying to figure out if someone is suspicious or not.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on July 23, 2013, 02:33:38 PM
I thought that was Austin.  That's the only consistently liberal area of Texas.  I have friends from there.

Yep. And I have family in Houston. . .  :yes:

Houston is considered to be a politically divided city whose balance of power often sways between Republicans and Democrats. The affluent western-central portions of Houston—such as River Oaks and the Memorial/Spring Branch area, as well as master planned communities of Kingwood and Clear Lake City—consistently vote Republican, while many of the inner city areas, Neartown, and Alief—are heavily Democratic.

Yet despite this stacked deck, and helped by the fact that in the 2009 election garnered just a 16.9% turnout, Annise Danette Parker capped an unorthodox election season that lacked a strong conservative mayoral contender and saw her coalition of inside-the-Loop Democrats and moderate conservatives, backed by an army of ardent volunteers, win the day over Locke, a former civil rights activist who attempted to unite African-American voters and Republicans.

Parker is the first openly gay elected official to lead a city in this nation.

That being said, it still doesn't mean squat when it comes to the conservative spawn that consistently lean republican not just in Harris county, but throughout the state of Texas. (As does its media outlets as well.)

And I know. I have done a TON of research on Houston and the surrounding areas / counties, as well as spoken to legions of Texans about the economy and politics of that area. And I did so not just because I have family there, but because I have had some very real and potentially lucrative job offers to relocate to that area; some of which remain on the table.

I just cannot see myself living in a sea of conservative religious zealots and hypocrites. . . .  Oh wait. . . I live in Indiana . . .  :spooked:
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
Sanford police investigator Christopher Serino said he believes Zimmerman pursued Martin because he was wearing a hoodie, not because Martin was black. Serino "told the FBI that gangs in Sanford, referred to in the community as 'goons,' typically dressed in black and wore hoodies. Serino described Zimmerman as overzealous and having a 'little hero complex,' but not a racist."

couple that in with Eight of the last eight breakins in that neighborhood were by young teen-aged black kids.

Right or wrong profiling is what most people do when they are trying to figure out if someone is suspicious or not.

Serino himself stated under oath, that he was biased by his affinity with Zimmy. . .  :rolleyes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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me

Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2013, 04:19:55 PM
And that remark was completely off base.  Really?  He was dressed the way some thugs dress?  Why, because he was wearing pants and a hoodie?  I dress like that too sometimes!
Had you been a stranger in that neighborhood wearing that same type of apparel and acting suspicious Zimmerman would have questioned you too.  When my better half was young teens with long hair were marked as being bad news and he was "profiled" many times for that because they, the cops, figured he was a druggie.   
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on July 23, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
Serino himself stated under oath, that he was biased by his affinity with Zimmy. . .  :rolleyes:

What does that have to do with what I stated about the gangs and hoods? Seriously.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
What does that have to do with what I stated about the gangs and hoods? Seriously.

I'm done explaining anything to you. . .

And another thing; that "description" pretty much is me, dead on, on weekends and days off in the spring and fall periods. Not to mention a lot of Goths . . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on July 23, 2013, 09:20:32 PM
I'm done explaining anything to you. . .

And another thing; that "description" pretty much is me, dead on, on weekends and days off in the spring and fall periods. Not to mention a lot of Goths . . .
Like I told Ex.
Quote from: me on July 23, 2013, 08:36:39 PM
Had you been a stranger in that neighborhood wearing that same type of apparel and acting suspicious Zimmerman would have questioned you too.  When my better half was young teens with long hair were marked as being bad news and he was "profiled" many times for that because they, the cops, figured he was a druggie.
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