Trayvon Martin

[Palehorse]

I am saying the jury will be out for 2.5 days. (+/- .5 days)

[Locutus]

I am saying the jury will be out for 2.5 days. (+/- .5 days)

So 2-3. 

I'm going to say 1-2 days.  Or in your terms, 1.5 (+/- .5 days) 

[Locutus]

I wonder if any of the jury will speak after the trial. It will be interesting to hear what their train of thought was in the jury room.

They may not.  Unfortunately, in high profile racially charged cases such as this, the jury is put in a no win situation just as much as Zimmerman is.   Remember how the Casey Anthony jury was reviled after that verdict?  I think the same thing will happen here.

[me]

They may not.  Unfortunately, in high profile racially charged cases such as this, the jury is put in a no win situation just as much as Zimmerman is.   Remember how the Casey Anthony jury was reviled after that verdict?  I think the same thing will happen here.

That's a shame too because they have to call it as they see it and fearing for their safety if they don't rule a certain way shouldn't even have to be an issue. 

[Locutus]

That's a shame too because they have to call it as they see it and fearing for their safety if they don't rule a certain way shouldn't even have to be an issue. 

I agree.  I've made no secret that I think Zimmerman has some culpability in this matter, and I know he's also a proven liar.  However, if I were a member of that sworn jury, I would have to rule that the state has not made a case of second degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt.  That's the standard; the state didn't meet it.

[Palehorse]

So 2-3. 

I'm going to say 1-2 days.  Or in your terms, 1.5 (+/- .5 days) 

You have to remember, these are 6 women. There is bound to be a cat fight to determine who is the Alpha, then there will be the 1-2 out of the six that will hold it against the Alpha for a period of time and attempt to undermine her.

All of this is bound to take at minimum 1 and a 1/2 deliberation sessions to work its way out. Then, once it has, they'll actually get down to business and quickly decide that murder 2 is out of the question. Commence arguments over the requirements for manslaughter.

At least one of these 6 women is leading an alternative lifestyle, (probably the one who ended up "Alpha"), and she is automatically against manslaughter because it contains the word "man". This will take her at least 1/2 a session to eventually push out her mind, and then only due to the caterwauling of the remaining 5 women as they discuss the requirements to convict on manslaughter, and get off into the deep weeds about the fact they've been sequestered and how unfair that is. (This will send the Alpha into another mind-bending jag and will burn up another 1/4 session).

Then Alpha will finally decide all of this is bullshit, none of these 5 women are worth spending any more time with, (including the one who is curious and perhaps interested in trying the other side of the plate), and she will finally pay attention to the requirements and quickly discover that there are one or more aspects of this charge that the case they have been presented doesn't meet. Not even close. (Burning another 1/4 session).

Then it just comes down to how much time it is going to take the Alpha to impose her will on the other 5. Likely 1/2 a session.

Then they have to fill out the verdict form, which will take a bit because they will have to review each and every point two to three times before the Alpha will sign her name to it.

[Locutus]

I can't wait until when and if Sandy Eggo reads that.   

[Locutus]

I'm sorry, that's fuckin' hilarious. 

[Henry Hawk]

PH,

That may be the BEST description of what is REALLY going to happen I have heard!  That is full of common sense and reasonable conclusions! 
also pretty dang funny.....

[Palehorse]

I can't wait until when and if Sandy Eggo reads that.   

Humor cannot be found funny by everyone. However, there is another angle to it. . . 

[Locutus]

 

[me]

Humor cannot be found funny by everyone. However, there is another angle to it. . . 

I think it's funny and pretty much spot on too from what I've observed over the years.  Not all women are like that but the ones that are sure make it hard on the rest of us.   

[Locutus]

Jurors have the case.  Stay tuned!

[Locutus]

The over/under started at 2:28 pm. 

Judge Debra Nelson handed them the case at 2:28 p.m. ET after instructing them on the law. They will be sequestered until they deliver a verdict.

[me]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/10/politics/peacekeepers-zimmerman/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Washington (CNN) -- A government agency long associated with efforts to mediate and diffuse tense situations in communities helped organize rallies over the killing of Florida teen Trayvon Martin last year, a conservative leaning legal advocacy group claims.
Judicial Watch circulated a press release and accompanying documents on Wednesday asserting that the Community Relations Service, a division of the Justice Department, sent a "secret team" of "peacekeepers" to Sanford, Florida, last March and April to work marches, demonstrations and rallies related to the explosive case that is now the subject of a murder trial.
Timeline of early events in Trayvon Martin case
The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment. It instead pointed CNN to the 45-year record of CRS, which was created by a provision included in the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Ex-police chief: I upheld my oath Ex-police chief: I upheld my oath Attorney: Martin family wants justice
The CRS website describes itself as "the only federal agency dedicated to assist state and local units of government, private and public organizations, and community groups with preventing and resolving racial and ethnic tensions, incidents, and civil disorders, and in restoring racial stability and harmony."
CRS conciliators are frequently seen at large marches and rallies, and have been present at countless protests, including those that occur every four years at the Democratic and Republican political conventions.
Conservative groups have complained that the conciliators are secretive and do not talk to the media.
Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe 'taken away from us'
The service maintains that it does not choose sides and "uses impartial mediation practices and conflict resolution procedures to help local leaders resolve problems and restore stability."
Zimmerman, 29, is accused of second-degree murder in the February 26, 2012, death of Martin, 17.
Defense attorneys argue Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense after the Miami teenager charged him. Prosecutors argue he followed Martin through his neighborhood and shot him without provocation.
Martin supporters argued Zimmerman, who is Hispanic, took advantage of what they considered loose Florida gun laws to racially profile and shoot an unarmed African-American teenager without provocation.
The incident, inflamed by a lengthy delay before charges were filed against Zimmerman, provoked protests nationwide.

Where are they for the white guy that was beaten by some blacks? http://www.youtube.com/v/n_jY4a66QSU&noredirect=1