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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 06, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
It was referring to Wisconsin Gov Scott Walker, winning his recall election..... I didn't say it was hilarious, but it did get a rise out of the troll...and that was my sole intent. 

btw, like I said, it had zero to do with the topic....just "trolling for trolls"... :smile:

  Your sense of humor is something a kin to a hangman dancing at his work.  What would you call it, grave yard humor.  You were bragging about your so called Koch brother and other millionaire boughten election in a wrong topic.  It wasn't funny, it was stupid.  :haha:  :haha:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
  Your sense of humor is something a kin to a hangman dancing at his work.  What would you call it, grave yard humor.  You were bragging about your so called Koch brother and other millionaire boughten election in a wrong topic.  It wasn't funny, it was stupid.  :haha:  :haha:

the bottom line is that "I" enjoyed it!! :haha:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 06, 2012, 02:49:54 PM
the bottom line is that "I" enjoyed it!! :haha:

  Yep, in the next Batman movie you could be the Joker.   :wink: :biggrin:

me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 06, 2012, 02:49:54 PM
the bottom line is that "I" enjoyed it!! :haha:
Kinda touchy ain't they HH?   :biggrin:
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on June 06, 2012, 06:20:13 PM
Kinda touchy ain't they HH?   :biggrin:

  :me: you could be in a Batman :bat: movie to.  You could be the Penguin.  Wack, wack, wack, wack, wack.   :biggrin:  Just wacky.  That's a joke.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :kiss:  Butter Cup.  :seeya2:

Locutus

New bond hearing for Zimmerman set for June 29th. 
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libby

Quote from: Palehorse on June 05, 2012, 12:47:47 PM
He strikes me (Zimmy) as one of those "high strung" individuals that are hyper type A's; and as such he will not do well incarcerated. If he is put into isolation he'll end up on suicide watch I am sure. (I would not be surprised to see him end up on the dead list here).

What I do not understand is why the court / prosecution did not run an updated inquiry into his financials prior to the arraignment and bond hearings. I would have thought that had they done so they'd have known up front that he and his wife were lying about their financials to the court.

However, it also tends to shed light on his credibility as well and as you say, it will end up costing them more than just money and possessions. . .
I would guess Zimmerman has been treated with some deference out of respect for his father, who is a retired magistrate (Virginia Supreme Court, 6 years).
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Palehorse

Quote from: libby on June 06, 2012, 10:37:26 PM
I would guess Zimmerman has been treated with some deference out of respect for his father, who is a retired magistrate (Virginia Supreme Court, 6 years).

Is that true?! I was not aware of that!
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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on June 06, 2012, 10:41:48 PM
Is that true?! I was not aware of that!

"Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website ."

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/crime/zimmerman-dad-worked-as-magistrate
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

This has to suck.  You're in prison for 19 years, you get out, get the first cell phone you've ever had in your life, and the service provider gives you George Zimmerman's old number.  ;D





At age 49, Junior Alexander Guy got his first cell phone last month. The calls started immediately.

Strangers called at all hours. Some were insulting. Others angry. Sometimes, they threatened him.

"You murderer!"

"You deserve to die!"

By Day 2 he figured out what was going on: T-Mobile had given him the phone number formerly used by George Zimmerman, the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin in February.

The number —407-435-2400 — was the one Zimmerman spelled out to a police dispatcher in a recorded call the night of the shooting that has since been widely circulated by news organizations and is available on the Internet.

Guy, who works at an Orlando wastewater plant, said his phone rang around the clock.

"At 2 o'clock, 3 o'clock in the morning I kept getting these," he said.

He estimates he received 70 threatening calls.

He has moved out of his home and relocated his mother, who had lived with him, to a different location, he said.

"I was not only afraid for my life, I was afraid for my mother's," he said.

He got the phone May 7. On May 16, he turned the phone over to Orlando lawyer Robert Trimble. Since then, the phone has been in Trimble's safe.

The lawyer has asked T-Mobile to pay damages. He would not say how much.

T-Mobile has said no, according to its top lawyer, Aram Meade.

"They're not looking to provide my client any compensation for what they've exposed him to," Trimble complained.

Meade said his company had offered to change the number, something that happened Thursday, the same day Trimble requested it.

Also Thursday, the company retired the number, said Glenn Zaccara, a company spokesman. And it provided an account credit and waived an early termination fee, he wrote in an email.

Guy had never had a cell phone, in part, because he got out of prison last year after serving 19 years on a cocaine trafficking charge. It was his third time in state prison, according to Florida Department of Corrections records.

Criminal history or no criminal history, Trimble said, Guy was given Zimmerman's old phone number, and evidence supports his claim that he was being pummeled by harassing calls.

"I'm asking them for a fair and reasonable sum," Trimble said.

The 28-year-old Zimmerman is currently in the Seminole County Jail, awaiting trial on a second-degree murder charge.



http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-old-phone-number-20120606_1_t-mobile-cell-phone-phone-number
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

 ;D   Wow!!  just when things were starting to look up!!  :spooked:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

George Zimmerman's wife was arrested Tuesday afternoon for allegedly lying at his bond hearing about the couple's finances.

Shellie N. Zimmerman, 25, faces a perjury charge, according to Jackie Barnard, spokeswoman for the State Attorney's office for the Fourth Judicial District of Florida. She met conditions for a $1,000 bond and was released Tuesday afternoon, according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office.

At her husband's April 20 bond hearing, Shellie Zimmerman was asked whether the couple had financial means to assist in the defense.

"Uhm, not -- not that I'm aware of," she replied, according to a probable cause affidavit filed Monday.

She also testified under oath she was not aware of how much had been raised from a website soliciting cash for George Zimmerman's defense in the February shooting death of Trayvon Martin, 17, in Sanford, Florida. Zimmerman said he acted in self-defense.

In April, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder after the case was referred to a state attorney for a review. He was released from custody later that month after posting bail.

On June 1, Seminole County Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. ordered Zimmerman back to jail, accusing the suspect of not being truthful about how much money he had access to when his bond was set.

Prosecutors alleged that George Zimmerman, 28, actually had about $135,000.

According to the affidavit, prepared by an investigator with the State Attorney's office, the Zimmermans discussed finances via phone before the April 20 bond hearing.

Those talks included the transfer of money from George Zimmerman's account to accounts of his sister and wife, according to the affidavit.

Records show $47,000 was transferred from George Zimmerman's account to his sister's account from April 16 and 17, authorities allege. Shellie Zimmerman transferred more than $74,000 from her husband's account to her account from April 16 to April 19, the affidavit states.

George Zimmerman asked his wife in jail calls to "pay off all the bills," including an American Express bill and a Sam's Club card, prosecutors allege.

On April 24, after his release on bond, Shellie Zimmerman transferred more than $85,500 from her account back to George Zimmerman's account, according to the affidavit.

Shellie Zimmerman will be arraigned July 31.

Prosecutors have alleged the Zimmermans spoke in code when discussing the money in a credit union account, according to court documents filed by State Attorney Angela B. Corey.

Zimmerman "fully controlled and participated in the transfer of money from the PayPal account to defendant and his wife's credit union accounts," Corey said in court records. "This occurred prior to the time defendant was arguing to the court that he was indigent and his wife had no money."

The judge "relied on false representations and statements" by Zimmerman and his wife when the court set his bond at $150,000, Corey said. Zimmerman was required to post only 10% of that.

Defense lawyers have argued that "the vast majority of the funds in question are in an independently managed trust" that Zimmerman and his attorneys cannot access directly.

"The audio recordings of Mr. Zimmerman's phone conversation while in jail make it clear that Mr. Zimmerman knew a significant sum had been raised by his original fundraising website," attorneys said last week. "We feel the failure to disclose these funds was caused by fear, mistrust and confusion. The gravity of this mistake has been distinctly illustrated, and Mr. Zimmerman understands that this mistake has undermined his credibility, which he will have to work to repair."

The attorneys said Zimmerman did disclose the existence of the funds five days after the bond hearing, during his first conversation with the defense about the fund. "When the defense team learned of the funds, we disclosed this to the court and to the State Attorney's Office, and the money was transferred to the Legal Defense Fund, which is now independently managed," the defense said.

Of the $204,000 raised by the website, about $150,000 is now in the defense fund and $30,000 was used "to make the complicated transition from private life in Sanford, Florida, to a life in hiding as a defendant in a high-profile court case."

The remainder, about $20,000, "was kept liquid to provide living expenses for the first several months as the legal process unfolds," attorneys said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/justice/florida-zimmerman-wife/index.html?c=homepage-t&page=0
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Saw that coming the day his bond was revoked.  I even think the judge subtly suggested it.  :yes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 08:36:36 PM
Saw that coming the day his bond was revoked.  I even think the judge subtly suggested it.  :yes:

  By chance, could this be a big,big case of CARMA.  Evil begets evil.  So they say.   :yes: :wink:

Locutus

She ain't happy.   :spooked:

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson