Trayvon Martin

[The Troll]

yep! no arguement there.  It really sucks too!

  Yep again, Republican know a lot about money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and how it can buy congressmen and the Supreme Court and that really sucks too. 

[Exterminator]

a perfect example of how propaganda works...

Despite your ilk's repeated attempts to convince everyone that it should be legal to kill black teenagers if you think they look shady, any scenario that doesn't have Zimmerman as the initial aggressor in this confrontation simply doesn't make sense.

[Henry Hawk]

Despite your ilk's repeated attempts to convince everyone that it should be legal to kill black teenagers if you think they look shady, any scenario that doesn't have Zimmerman as the initial aggressor in this confrontation simply doesn't make sense.

Had it not been for NBC falsifying their reports, or how the media intentionally made trayvon look like a sweet teenager or how the deliberatly made Zimmerman look like a big thug...maybe this would have never been the story it is.

And you are still using propaganda say YOUR ILK WANTS BLACK KIDS KILLED...that is just MORE propaganda.  Trying to persuade others into thinking that the truth does not mattter.

[Bo D]

Had it not been for NBC falsifying their reports

Whoa, Dude! They did NOT falsify their reports. All they did was edit the 911 tape. And EVERYONE is guilty of creative editing.

[The Troll]

Whoa, Dude! They did NOT falsify their reports. All they did was edit the 911 tape. And EVERYONE is guilty of creative editing.

  Hold on Big Guy, you can't say that everyone does it.  You won't find any of that on Fox News.   

[Palehorse]

"Editing" is what got Brietbart (sic) in trouble, and when it is done so in order to slant the material it is deceitful; especially when it imposes severe consequences upon another.

At the end of the day though, what real impact has NBC's employee's misdeeds imposed upon the situation?

A child is still dead at the hand of an overzealous adult who should have known better.

And I will say this much, having had several deviated septum's over the course of my years; there is no way that Zimmie had a broken nose from what I have seen. That video of him being taken into the police station post incident is fairly damning in that regard.

Every single time my nose has been broken, (and the noses of others I have witnessed being broken), have resulted in severe bleeding from the nostrils.

Moreover, had the authorities exercised due diligence in this case, any injuries he may or may not have incurred would have been clearly documented and proper medical care administered.

The fact that Zimmie waited to see his family doctor injects reasonable doubt surrounding his version of the incident. And I have dealt with enough doctors within my professional career to know that, while it is shameful to say, a doctor can be persuaded to provide a medical opinion to support anything you would like them to.

The media is guilty of sensationalism surrounding every aspect of what it considers "news". I consider most media venues as nothing more than another drama series whose singular purpose is to attract viewers/readers to support their corporate sponsors.

And if you think about what happened that night at a very high level, putting yourself in Martin's place, how would you react if you were walking back home from the store, not bothering anyone, and some guy gets out of a car and starts asking you questions; showing you no badge or other identification indicating he is an officer of the law?

I've had occasion to know for a fact how I would react. While snagging for salmon in one of Chicago's harbors, my companion and I decided to try another venue and began walking back to the truck. Two guys were coming toward us and one of them had a stiletto blade and stepped in front of us demanding identification, etc. They were both dressed like we were, in jeans and t-shirts with jackets on.

The whole time this guy is pushing the button on the knife and moving the blade in and out of its case.

We kept walking , and I had my 7 foot, heavy action rod in my right hand with a very large treble hook hanging from the end of the line. It wasn't until we saw the squad car that we realized these two thugs were Game Wardens. And both my friend and I were ready to use our rods as weapons if they continued to harass us. At no time did they say they were law enforcement. They just demanded identification. . .

So . . .

[Exterminator]

A child is still dead at the hand of an overzealous adult who should have known better.

Yep, and the same people who continually claim they aren't racists have been trying to make the victim the guiltay party since day one.  Very telling, IMO.

[me]

Yep, and the same people who continually claim they aren't racists have been trying to make the victim the guiltay party since day one.  Very telling, IMO.

Better think about that one EX.  Zimmerman is of mixed blood, part Latino, part white, and part black. 

Now when do we start discussing the two white reporters who were attacked by the black gang in Norfolk, Va?  You did hear about that didn't you?   

[Henry Hawk]

I'm not saying he is not guilty of manslaughter, but I do not think he is guilty of Murder.

I am tired of the REAL racist putting a bounty on this guy and those who have already convicted him of murder.

[Exterminator]

Better think about that one EX.  Zimmerman is of mixed blood, part Latino, part white, and part black.

Zimmerman is primarily of white hispanic background (as opposed to brown or black hispanic); Martin was clearly black.

Now when do we start discussing the two white reporters who were attacked by the black gang in Norfolk, Va?  You did hear about that didn't you?

No, and it has nothing to do with this discussion (but does underscore my point, thank you).

[The Troll]

"Editing" is what got Brietbart (sic) in trouble, and when it is done so in order to slant the material it is deceitful; especially when it imposes severe consequences upon another.

At the end of the day though, what real impact has NBC's employee's misdeeds imposed upon the situation?

A child is still dead at the hand of an overzealous adult who should have known better.

And I will say this much, having had several deviated septum's over the course of my years; there is no way that Zimmie had a broken nose from what I have seen. That video of him being taken into the police station post incident is fairly damning in that regard.

Every single time my nose has been broken, (and the noses of others I have witnessed being broken), have resulted in severe bleeding from the nostrils.

Moreover, had the authorities exercised due diligence in this case, any injuries he may or may not have incurred would have been clearly documented and proper medical care administered.

The fact that Zimmie waited to see his family doctor injects reasonable doubt surrounding his version of the incident. And I have dealt with enough doctors within my professional career to know that, while it is shameful to say, a doctor can be persuaded to provide a medical opinion to support anything you would like them to.

The media is guilty of sensationalism surrounding every aspect of what it considers "news". I consider most media venues as nothing more than another drama series whose singular purpose is to attract viewers/readers to support their corporate sponsors.

And if you think about what happened that night at a very high level, putting yourself in Martin's place, how would you react if you were walking back home from the store, not bothering anyone, and some guy gets out of a car and starts asking you questions; showing you no badge or other identification indicating he is an officer of the law?

I've had occasion to know for a fact how I would react. While snagging for salmon in one of Chicago's harbors, my companion and I decided to try another venue and began walking back to the truck. Two guys were coming toward us and one of them had a stiletto blade and stepped in front of us demanding identification, etc. They were both dressed like we were, in jeans and t-shirts with jackets on.

The whole time this guy is pushing the button on the knife and moving the blade in and out of its case.

We kept walking , and I had my 7 foot, heavy action rod in my right hand with a very large treble hook hanging from the end of the line. It wasn't until we saw the squad car that we realized these two thugs were Game Wardens. And both my friend and I were ready to use our rods as weapons if they continued to harass us. At no time did they say they were law enforcement. They just demanded identification. . .

So . . .

  I know about deviated septum.  When I had mind done the doctor packed my nose harder than Henry ever packed ice cream at Burt T. Owens.

  Game wardens.  When I snagged salmon at Bering Springs Michigan.  This old man stood there all dressed up in a plaid shirt, new waders and new rod and reel.  A small rod and reel for snagging salmon?  Every now a then he would make a halfassed cast and watching everybody.

  A guy snagged a trout and started to walk off with it.  You got it, the asshole was a game warden.  He flashed his badge and they walked of together.  The trout was gut hooked and would have died if it was returned to the river.  But that don't matter to a damn cop.   

[Henry Hawk]

I know about deviated septum.  When I had mind done the doctor packed my nose harder than Henry ever packed ice cream at Burt T. Owens.

Hey Troll, I could pack some serious Blue Moon Ice Cream!!!!  As a matter of fact I was at one time a, two-time Blue Moon Ice Cream Packer Award winner!!!

You made me reminince about some good time!!  Bert T's was the best!

[The Troll]

Hey Troll, I could pack some serious Blue Moon Ice Cream!!!!  As a matter of fact I was at one time a, two-time Blue Moon Ice Cream Packer Award winner!!!

You made me reminince about some good time!!  Bert T's was the best!

  Yes Sir, they had the best hand packed ice cream in the world as far I was concerned.     Oh Happy Days

[incognito]

Hey Troll, I could pack some serious Blue Moon Ice Cream!!!!  As a matter of fact I was at one time a, two-time Blue Moon Ice Cream Packer Award winner!!!

You made me reminince about some good time!Bert T's was the best!

as long as you are speaking of pendleton and morton!

i agree!

[Henry Hawk]

as long as you are speaking of pendleton and morton!

i agree!

Naw, I was on Columbus Ave....dipped ice cream, made some of the best Roast Beef Sandwiches in the world there....

Don, I bet we crossed paths before, I used to work a Stricklers Hardware back in the late 70's and early 80's.