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Started by Henry Hawk, March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM

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Henry Hawk

any thoughts on the Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman incident?
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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
any thoughts on the Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman incident?

Yep, Zimmerman should havge been charged and a jury should have been left to decide if he acted in self-defense.  The problem that I have with the situation is that some people don't seem to realize that the stand your ground law doesn't only apply to Zimmerman but to Martin as well.  Zimmerman followed and probably tried to detain Martin when he had no authority to do so.  Had he followed the instructions he was given by law enforcement and let them handle it, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.  Martin's death is a direct result of bad decisions made by Zimmerman, ergo, Zimmerman is responsible for his death.

You don't get to cry self-defense when you shoot someone as a result of an altercation that you initiated.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 29, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
Yep, Zimmerman should havge been charged and a jury should have been left to decide if he acted in self-defense.  The problem that I have with the situation is that some people don't seem to realize that the stand your ground law doesn't only apply to Zimmerman but to Martin as well.  Zimmerman followed and probably tried to detain Martin when he had no authority to do so.  Had he followed the instructions he was given by law enforcement and let them handle it, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.  Martin's death is a direct result of bad decisions made by Zimmerman, ergo, Zimmerman is responsible for his death.

You don't get to cry self-defense when you shoot someone as a result of an altercation that you initiated.

I actually tend to agree with you on this.  I think the police did a poor job of handling this.  Why are there no pictures of the injuries to Martin?  I do not think Trayvon is completely innocent though, at least not in the fashion he was at first being portrayed.

Still needs to go to trial and let the experts figure this one out.  I think the hoopla with Black Panthers and Sharpton need to back off....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM
any thoughts on the Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman incident?

  I think it was a hate murder.  When you approach a person with a gun and you have no right to and he is unarmed and he puts up a defense, it is cold blooded murder.   :rant:

Henry Hawk

The New Black Panther Party has issued a "dead or alive" bounty for Zimmerman's  capture. Its value was originally $10,000. On Wednesday that amount was  increased dramatically — to $1 million.

I think it is time for Obama to address THIS issue!!!

This nation has NEVER been so divided as it is now.... :no:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
This nation has NEVER been so divided as it is now.... :no:

Bush divided the nation; thank him.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 29, 2012, 03:01:33 PM
Bush divided the nation; thank him.
WHAT????  Where the hell have you been anyway?  I can't believe you said that.
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me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 02:33:32 PM
The New Black Panther Party has issued a "dead or alive" bounty for Zimmerman's  capture. Its value was originally $10,000. On Wednesday that amount was  increased dramatically — to $1 million.

I think it is time for Obama to address THIS issue!!!

This nation has NEVER been so divided as it is now.... :no:
That is unreal.  Yes, Obama should be out there trying to calm things down instead of making statements to fan the flames or none at all.  Seems like no one has mentioned Zimmerman appears to be of Latino heritage ...nnnnnnnoooooooooooo he is labeled as white for stirring up trouble by certain hate groups. And then there's that little stunt Spike Lee pulled.  What a guy. 
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me

Quote from: The Troll on March 29, 2012, 12:30:52 PM
  I think it was a hate murder.  When you approach a person with a gun and you have no right to and he is unarmed and he puts up a defense, it is cold blooded murder.   :rant:
And this is a prime example of stirring the pot.  There are different witnesses that have shed more light on what went down and Trayvon was in a "gated" community.  If he had been white wearing a hoodie the results could have been the same since he would have been unfamiliar in the area. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on March 29, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
And this is a prime example of stirring the pot.  There are different witnesses that have shed more light on what went down and Trayvon was in a "gated" community.  If he had been white wearing a hoodie the results could have been the same since he would have been unfamiliar in the area.

  Yes, he was in a gated community visiting his dad.  You ever wear a hoodie, I have many times.  The man who killed him had no business even bothering him especially after he was told to leave him alone.  My god are you stupid.

  You are always claiming your not racist, but defending the killer say that Trayyon was wearing a hoodie in a gated community.  To be a real gated community, you have to have gate and security guard on the gate.

  The killer was in his car when he seen Trayyon and he chased him a half a block into the houses with a gun.  I call it out and out murder.  One more killed by a want to be cop.   :rant:

The Troll

Quote from: me on March 29, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
That is unreal.  Yes, Obama should be out there trying to calm things down instead of making statements to fan the flames or none at all.  Seems like no one has mentioned Zimmerman appears to be of Latino heritage ...nnnnnnnoooooooooooo he is labeled as white for stirring up trouble by certain hate groups. And then there's that little stunt Spike Lee pulled.  What a guy.

  Did O0 Spike Lee kill anybody?  This is a state of Florida, they pass this law that was to ill defined to say what stand your ground was and what it was not.  You Republican are crying about state rights, why bring in Obama.  So you can turn around and blame him for the murder.   :rolleyes:

me

Quote from: The Troll on March 29, 2012, 08:47:51 PM
  Did O0 Spike Lee kill anybody?  This is a state of Florida, they pass this law that was to ill defined to say what stand your ground was and what it was not.  You Republican are crying about state rights, why bring in Obama.  So you can turn around and blame him for the murder.   :rolleyes:
He very well could have caused the deaths of those two elderly people whose address he gave thinking it was Zimmerman's.  What if someone had set the house on fire?  What if he had given out your address to thousands of people who follow him on twitter?  Then what would you think of his little stunt? 
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me

Quote from: The Troll on March 29, 2012, 08:40:55 PM
  Yes, he was in a gated community visiting his dad.  You ever wear a hoodie, I have many times.  The man who killed him had no business even bothering him especially after he was told to leave him alone.  My god are you stupid.

  You are always claiming your not racist, but defending the killer say that Trayyon was wearing a hoodie in a gated community.  To be a real gated community, you have to have gate and security guard on the gate.

  The killer was in his car when he seen Trayyon and he chased him a half a block into the houses with a gun.  I call it out and out murder.  One more killed by a want to be cop.   :rant:
Why, if he were visiting his dad was he not recognized by Zimmerman who lives in the neighborhood and why did Trayvon not know there had been a problems and a need for a neighborhood watch?  The man who shot him was not "white" hes is a Mexican American and he tutors blacks......Profile of a "white" racist????  I think not. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on March 29, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
He very well could have caused the deaths of those two elderly people whose address he gave thinking it was Zimmerman's.  What if someone had set the house on fire?  What if he had given out your address to thousands of people who follow him on twitter?  Then what would you think of his little stunt?

  Just where in hell are you getting all of this shit?  Fox News.  Try watching MSNBC from 8 to 10 PM and learn something.  The boy was about a 100 yards from his dad's girlfriend's house.  Straight up the sidewalk.  Just where did you get he gave the killer an address.

  I think in my whole life I have never seen someone as nuts as your are.  Where in hell are you getting this information.   :rant: