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libby

#225
July 28, 2012, 12:05:24 AM
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Y

#226
July 28, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 08:27:19 AM
No. I've stated my belief. And I respect yours. I'll move on, now.

We're not as far apart as you might think.  The universe is a wonder to behold and only becomes more so as we learn about it.  We are but a small part of it, but my point about that is mainly that we aren't the epitome of it all as the creationists believe.
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#227
July 28, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: libby on July 23, 2012, 05:49:27 PM
I believe we have a soul that lives on, which is not bound to this planet or any religion. Don't ask for proof. That's just the only thing that makes sense to me.

Science has convincing evidence that energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed.  Therefore, to follow that logic, whatever the spark that animates us cannot be destroyed.  Now I doubt that however that spark is transformed, we'll retain the consciousness of this life - and I certainly don't swallow religions' concepts of afterlife.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#228
July 28, 2012, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on July 24, 2012, 11:56:48 AM

January 28th, 1986 at 11:39am EDT - The Space Shuttle Challenger Explodes on its 10th flight during mission STS-51-L. The explosion occurred 73 seconds after liftoff and was actually the result of rapid deceleration and not combustion of fuel...

I saw that and vaguely remember writing a song about it.  I don't remember if I thought it was any good or not and it may have burned up in the storage fire.  I think I'll look through my other stuff and see if I can find it.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

libby

#229
July 29, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Y on July 28, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Science has convincing evidence that energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed.  Therefore, to follow that logic, whatever the spark that animates us cannot be destroyed.  Now I doubt that however that spark is transformed, we'll retain the consciousness of this life - and I certainly don't swallow religions' concepts of afterlife.
My comment was not about religion. I honestly do not know, deep down, what I really believe vs. what I want to believe.

Your comment about "religions' concepts of afterlife" made me think of my dear departed friend Charlie. He was a lawyer and so practical that I liked to tease him a little with talk about reincarnation. He never really said anything, just looked at me thoughtfully. But, about two weeks before he died of cancer, we had dinner together, and right out of the blue, he looked at me and said, "It's not that I don't believe in reincarnation. I just don't want to come back as a cockroach." (He had a great sense of humor, right to the end.)



All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

The Troll

#230
July 29, 2012, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: libby on July 29, 2012, 12:39:15 AM
  My comment was not about religion. I honestly do not know, deep down, what I really believe vs. what I want to believe.

Your comment about "religions' concepts of afterlife" made me think of my dear departed friend Charlie. He was a lawyer and so practical that I liked to tease him a little with talk about reincarnation. He never really said anything, just looked at me thoughtfully. But, about two weeks before he died of cancer, we had dinner together, and right out of the blue, he looked at me and said, "It's not that I don't believe in reincarnation. I just don't want to come back as a cockroach." (He had a great sense of humor, right to the end.)

  In our world everything seem to have a certain life span.  Got a good question for all of you science lovers.  It is, Do atoms and molecules have a life span.  We have be told that every atom that is in our bodies, in the earth and in the universe was created all at once in the big bang.

  Will the atoms all die at once or will they live for ever and ever.  Also how do they have the energy to continuing to spin and be in their state forever.   :biggrin:

Palehorse

#231
July 29, 2012, 11:15:03 PM
Atoms are forever.

Sure, some forms of them decay, but decay at an atomic level is a means of moving toward stable mass. An atom in decay will contain one too many neutrons, (IIRC), and once that happens it is ejected from the atom, along with a proton and anti-neutrino, to become an atom itself. (Leaving the atom from which it was ejected to become stable.)
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Bo D

#232
July 30, 2012, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: Y on July 28, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
We're not as far apart as you might think.  The universe is a wonder to behold and only becomes more so as we learn about it.  We are but a small part of it, but my point about that is mainly that we aren't the epitome of it all as the creationists believe.

Agreed.

Have any of you seen the Brian Greene PBS series "The Fabric of the Cosmos?"

Absolutely mind blowing! Especially the episode about the Multiverse!

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#233
July 31, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
The month of August brings us not one, but two full moons. The first will  kick off the month on Wednesday (Aug.1), and will be followed by a second on  Aug. 31.
Some almanacs and calendars assert that when two full moons occur within a  calendar month, the second full moon is called a "blue moon."
The full moon that night will likely look no different than any other full moon.  But the moon can change color in certain conditions.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/07/30/singing-blues-august-will-be-blue-moon-month/?intcmp=features#ixzz22CeRW3sA
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#234
July 31, 2012, 12:20:57 PM
Let's all have one of these on the 31st!  :biggrin:



One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#235
July 31, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
Count me in!!   :yes: :biggrin:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#236
July 31, 2012, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 31, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
Count me in!!   :yes: :biggrin:

I only drink that kind of beer once in a blue moon.  :rotfl:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#237
July 31, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: Locutus on July 31, 2012, 12:25:45 PM
I only drink that kind of beer once in a blue moon.  :rotfl:

Maybe we should have blue moon ice cream instead....it probably tastes better.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

#238
July 31, 2012, 12:50:26 PM
Quote from: Olias on July 30, 2012, 11:41:03 AM
Agreed.

Have any of you seen the Brian Greene PBS series "The Fabric of the Cosmos?"

Absolutely mind blowing! Especially the episode about the Multiverse!
I didn't watch it. Didn't even know it was on. I have watched very little TV lately -- but would certainly have made room for that series if I'd know it was on.

I just googled it and found it is supposed to be on again tomorrow night.

Thanks for mentioning it!
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Locutus

#239
July 31, 2012, 01:12:05 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 31, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
Maybe we should have blue moon ice cream instead....it probably tastes better.

Maybe.  I have a few friends who drink that but they're mostly of the feminine persuasion.  But I figure if it's a blue moon outside, I can try and scarf one down in celebration.  ;D   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson
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