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Started by Palehorse, January 03, 2012, 12:51:07 PM

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Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 01:30:50 PM
Yeah, I agree.  I think Exterminator has alluded to some of those same points in the past somewhere around here. 

We also know that even if we don't off ourselves in the meantime, we're eventually going to have to find a way off of this planet or those that are around at that time are going to have a serious suntan, no drinking water, and no oxygen.  ;D

It's more than that. I continue to be shocked by the number of complete idiots I run into every day. Mankind evolved and became dominant because of brain power. Now it looks like we're going the other way. Quickly.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: Olias on June 20, 2012, 01:35:22 PM
It's more than that. I continue to be shocked by the number of complete idiots I run into every day. Mankind evolved and became dominant because of brain power. Now it looks like we're going the other way. Quickly.

By idiots, do you mean those lacking in education, common sense, or both?  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 01:46:25 PM
By idiots, do you mean those lacking in education, common sense, or both?  ;D

Doesn't common sense dictate that you should educate yourself as fully as possible?

I guess both ...
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: Olias on June 20, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Doesn't common sense dictate that you should educate yourself as fully as possible?

I guess both ...

One would think common sense would dictate education.  I too am constantly amazed at the abject ignorance that seems to abound everywhere around us.  People lack basic knowledge about just about everything.  Another scary thing is that the ones who are the most ignorant seem to have the loudest voices in conversations that truly matter.  There may not be much hope for us if that trend continues.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 02:22:58 PM
Another scary thing is that the ones who are the most ignorant seem to have the loudest voices in conversations that truly matter. 


This part right there, I particularly agree with 100%.  :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Olias on June 20, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
Doesn't common sense dictate that you should educate yourself as fully as possible?

I guess both ...

  It sorta of what you want.  If you were hopelessly lost in a great wilderness.  Would want to be there with a over educated brain who knows thick books.  Or some Kentucky hillbilly who was raised in the hills living off the land and had good common sense.  I think I would be better talking hillbilly than Harvard speak.   :wink: :smile:

Anne

I have known some brilliant people who don't have enough common sense to come in out of the rain. Give them a paper to write, math or science problem and they are great but the can't figure out a self check out counter.  :)
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

libby

Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 01:15:19 PM
I would actually love to be able to come back at some point in the future and see what's in store for the human race, and see if we've progressed beyond some of the Neanderthal thinking that's ingrained into so many people. Hopefully, the future for the human race holds something other than extinction.
Remember the old H.G. Wells movie The Time Machine, starring Rod Taylor and Yvette Mimieux?
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on June 20, 2012, 10:19:47 PM
I have known some brilliant people who don't have enough common sense to come in out of the rain. Give them a paper to write, math or science problem and they are great but the can't figure out a self check out counter.  :)

  The thing that makes a educated brain is memory.  Usually photographic memory.  Great at taking test and this is what gets you good jobs is taking and making good test scores.   But the ability to apply your memory to a problem is the key.  I have worked for many engineers and supervisors that had no mechanical or problem solving ability at all.  But they got the good job and the good pay because they had good school grades and could take a test and get a high score.   :yes: :yes: :rant:

The Troll

Quote from: libby on June 20, 2012, 11:19:29 PM
  Remember the old H.G. Wells movie The Time Machine, starring Rod Taylor and Yvette Mimieux?


  Here is a good question for you Libby.  If you were handed your "Libby's Book of Life" and in that book was the day, month and year, the time and the way you will died or killed. :dead:  Would you open the book and look to see how and when you die?   :eek:   :o  Think about it.  I would, for it would change the way I am living now.   :smile:

Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on June 20, 2012, 10:19:47 PM
I have known some brilliant people who don't have enough common sense to come in out of the rain. Give them a paper to write, math or science problem and they are great but the can't figure out a self check out counter.  :)

Some of the most brilliant people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing or working with had both education and real life experience. Typically they were individuals who were bored in High School, got jobs, and skipped college for about 10 or so years. Then they went to college and obtained a higher education with which to utilize their experience.

THOSE are the people who assure the continuation of the species, but they are becoming increasingly silent due to the aforementioned loudmouths who get the corporate controlled media's attention; which drives the sheep onto the path of doom.

That we still look to the skies centuries later is a good thing, however that we continue to lose ground to idiocy is the dangerous part of the formula. Should the trend continue I believe that Olias's forecast is more likely, and Locutus's the "best case scenario" surrounding the fate of the planet and species.

Troll: If there were such a book to foretell our future destiny as individuals I would NOT look; for to look is to change, past, present, and future. My life is what it is and will be and I am resolved to play the hand out to the last. If the last is 5 minutes from now or 50 years is of no consequence to me. If I look it changes everything between now and my expiration date, and I wouldn't want to miss one second of my destiny. . . for it makes me that which I am and will be. Now why would I want to change that?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 21, 2012, 12:30:33 AM
Troll: If there were such a book to foretell our future destiny as individuals I would NOT look; for to look is to change, past, present, and future. My life is what it is and will be and I am resolved to play the hand out to the last. If the last is 5 minutes from now or 50 years is of no consequence to me. If I look it changes everything between now and my expiration date, and I wouldn't want to miss one second of my destiny. . . for it makes me that which I am and will be. Now why would I want to change that?

That comment RIGHT there is exactly WHY I like Palehorse.  I 100% agree with him on this one.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Anne

I wouldn't look either. I like m life, family and friends. If knowing when and how I would die would change the way I live, why wouldn't I change things now, do all the things on a 'bucket list'.  Now that might be an interesting topic, What is on your bucket list? Have we done that before?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

I too, would not want to jeopardize ANYTHING in my life.  I am 100% content with my life and adore my family and friends.

as they (we) are.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll


  Well, we all know we are going to die one day.  I know in my heart that I won't have to meet my "maker" but I try to not do un to others as some has done to me. :yes: :smile:

  But, if I'm am destined to die in a fetal position in a diaper in a dark and piss smelling nursing home, I sure would like to make plans to have something on hand to shorten my trip back to the Universe from whence I came from.  We won't pray :pray: on this one.   :wink: :smile: