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libby

#30
April 01, 2012, 04:45:51 PM
Is there a God (The Creator)? In my opinion, yes.

The following refers to the old riddle about whether trees exist when nobody observes them, or make a sound when they fall and there's nobody around to hear it.

There once was a man who said, "God
Must think it exceedingly odd
If he finds that this tree
Continues to be
When there is no one about in the quad."

"Dear sir, your astonishment's odd
I am always about in the quad
And that's why the tree
Will continue to be
Since observed by,
Yours faithfully, God."

-- from the book, The Whole Shebang, A State Of The Universe(s) Report (category Cosmology), by Timothy Ferris.

Ferris says he is a "strong agnostic," a position which "denies that God's existence can ever be disproved." .... "There are many definitions of God, some of which seem to say nothing at all about God except that he exists. I hold that it is impossible to disprove all these definitions."

Ferris is a best-selling author, winner of the American Institute of Physics Prize ("Coming of age in the Milky Way") and an emeritus professor at the University of California, Berkeley.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

libby

#31
April 01, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
Quote from: Locutus on April 01, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
If you take the time to watch that video, please let me know what you think about what the Hubble was able to show us.
I watched it. :thumbsup: Recognized Orion's Belt and the Big Dipper. It is mind-boggling if you really think about it -- when we look up at the stars we're looking back in time. Thanks for posting it.  :smile:
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Locutus

#32
April 01, 2012, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: libby on April 01, 2012, 05:10:39 PM
I watched it. :thumbsup: Recognized Orion's Belt and the Big Dipper. It is mind-boggling if you really think about it -- when we look up at the stars we're looking back in time. Thanks for posting it.  :smile:

I love astronomy and astrophysics, although strictly in a layman's fashion.  If I win the lottery, and can go back to school, I will probably pursue a degree along those lines.   But that's wishful thinking.   My odds of winning the lottery aren't really much better than 1 in the total number of stars in our general neighborhood of the Milky Way.  :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#33
April 01, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Watched it and as always find it utterly amazing and thought inspiring.

How anyone can think we are the only intelligent life that exists is, well. . . delusional!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#34
April 01, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on April 01, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Watched it and as always find it utterly amazing and thought inspiring.

How anyone can think we are the only intelligent life that exists is, well. . . delusional!

Agreed my friend.  Completely agreed. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#35
April 01, 2012, 09:14:09 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on April 01, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Watched it and as always find it utterly amazing and thought inspiring.

How anyone can think we are the only intelligent life that exists is, well. . . delusional!

Even as a proud Christian, I don't think it is wrong for me to think that there could be something else out there.......I believe in God.  I think God is much bigger than anything our minds can conceive...and the ernomousity of our galaxy is just as mind boggling.  I think the "odds" are in favor of life of some shape or form ....somewhere.  I think it is incredible beyond belief.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#36
April 01, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Locutus on April 01, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Agreed my friend.  Completely agreed.

I actually am going to be very disappointed if when my expiration date comes, I cannot flit about space taking it all in. . .

If I had the opportunity to take a one way space flight to a destination in space, for the purpose of exploration, I'd be all over that. Of course, I'm a bit long in the tooth for such pipe dreams, but even as a young colt, I was of the same mind.  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#37
April 01, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on April 01, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
I actually am going to be very disappointed if when my expiration date comes, I cannot flit about space taking it all in. . .

If I had the opportunity to take a one way space flight to a destination in space, for the purpose of exploration, I'd be all over that. Of course, I'm a bit long in the tooth for such pipe dreams, but even as a young colt, I was of the same mind.  :yes:

Well the survival of our specie depends on like minded "colts" of the future.  If we can't intervene, and we don't off ourselves at our own had first, we have to find a way off of this planet to survive.  That's a certainty.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#38
April 01, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
Quote from: Locutus on April 01, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Well the survival of our specie depends on like minded "colts" of the future.  If we can't intervene, and we don't off ourselves at our own had first, we have to find a way off of this planet to survive.  That's a certainty.

Absolutely!  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

#39
April 01, 2012, 11:13:37 PM

  The universe is not forever, when all of the hydrogen is consumed it will go dark and there will be no light.  Just darkness and cold.  The earth and our sun and the Milky Way Galaxy will be gone long before the whole universe goes dark.  That's something to think about.  What is great none of us will see it come.  :dark:

Palehorse

#40
April 01, 2012, 11:24:14 PM
The thing I find interesting is the fact that all of the universes are moving away from us.  It stands to reason that we also are moving. . . or perhaps they aren't moving and it is just us?!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#41
April 01, 2012, 11:49:34 PM
I think science has shown that galaxies, matter, and even dark matter are expanding outwardly from the Big Bang.  So yes, we are moving, and several scientists suppose that the Milky Way is on a collision course with the Andromeda Galaxy in a few billion years. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

#42
April 04, 2012, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: Locutus on April 01, 2012, 11:49:34 PM
I think science has shown that galaxies, matter, and even dark matter are expanding outwardly from the Big Bang.  So yes, we are moving, and several scientists suppose that the Milky Way is on a collision course with the Andromeda Galaxy in a few billion years.

  Einstein said that nothing could travel faster than light 356,000 miles per second.  But some scientists say that with the expanding of the edge of the universe by the Big Bang the speed of light could be over come.  WOW!   :biggrin:

Bo D

#43
April 04, 2012, 01:23:01 PM
"There no centre of the universe because there is no edge of the universe."


http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/bigbang.html
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

#44
April 04, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: Olias on April 04, 2012, 01:23:01 PM
"There no centre of the universe because there is no edge of the universe."


http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/bigbang.html

  Good stuff  :thumbsup:  There is one question I would like to ask the scientist. "If we could make the earth stand motionless in the universe and completely stop.  What picture would we see in the sky.     :o   :biggrin:
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